Endler Dying... No Obvious Reason. Another Unwell Now Too

Unfortunately it looks like he's nearly gone. I should have put him down last night but had some doubts of 'what if he's ok'.

Unfortunately I had to leave for work but have given my partner instructions on what to do.

I just don't understand what happened :-( he's always been my most active energetic fish, and then suddenly this :-(

My partner removed Ace from the tank as soon as he got up, so I'm really hoping there will beinimal disruption to the other inhabitants. I'll definitely be keeping a close eye (once I'm home from work of course) and be noting any odd behaviours and doing frequent water tests.

Thanks for the support Natalia - I know it's silly getting attached but I think I was lulled into a false sense of security of things looking good in the tank despite moving etc. Poor Ace :-(

If you can think of any possible causes I would love to know any guesses - I hate the not knowing, especially as he'd seemed otherwise fine only two days ago

Also apologies to everyone for any typos in my posts over the last month, I've had done problems trying to get WiFi set up at home so am stuck on my phone (and of course tonight im on a sleep shift at work anyway!)

No problem Sue!

I think you're probably right Sue that the combination of the pea, move, and different water probably all contributed to his death and he was sicker than he appeared. I'm hopeful that the rest of the tank aren't similarly affected and things will return to normal.

I must confess I'm not 100% happy with the new location of the tank (in the corner on the coffee table) and it's much harder to watch my fish. I think I'll have to start sitting down and watching the tank longer like I used to. I've been more distracted with the move and new job etc so I need to make more time for my fish again! 

Sorry to hear about your fish Natalia :-( They look lovely though, and sounds luje you went through a lot to get and look after them too! Tganks again, I'll try and move on with mytank with a close eye now!

Just going to bump this... Sorry!

I don't know what to suggest, other than more water changes than usual. Without symptoms it is difficult to diagnose what's wrong and suggest a treatment.

Hopefull Natalia will be able to help more than me 

Most concerningly I haven't found Lister... I think the others must have eaten his body but could 6 endlers really eat a whole body? :s

if anything I would also say my other fish look brighter and more colourful than ever

Yes last night Lister was resting under the bogwood, but I looked through all plants and lifted everything and can't see a thing.  Will have another look just in case.

Unfortunately not - Ace was my newest fish bought a couple months ago from the same shop as my Japanese Blue endlers, just much later and on his own. Lister was one of my first fish bought at the same time as my other 'GREEN' endlers from MA.

Thank you Notungz.

All my remaining fish seem to be behaving normally today.  I did another small water change today and will continue to monitor. It's my birthday next week not too nice a present from my tank! It seems very empty now with only my 6 fish. 3 shrimp are doing good too, zooming about in the open as usual. In fact they're probably taking advantage since Ace was my only fish that ever hassled them.

Still no sign of a body. I'm worried if it is in there somewhere my parameters are going to go through the roof...

Hi Jesnon,
I am so sorry about Ace and Lister... 
Sorry to say that, but with no apparent signs it is really difficult to pin point the problem... You mentioned more than usual amount of “muck”... This is so far the only clue which, without any other signs, does not give sufficient “evidence” to come to any conclusions... One very obvious thing is Endlers’ life span. I have been reading a lot of reports saying that many people only have their Endlers in their tanks for about 15 to 18 months maximum – with their natural lifespan quoted as “maximum 2 years” (that is from fry stage)...
So, I was thinking: maybe Ace and Lister were fairly old (Endlers’ age) when you got them from the start? The stress of moving may have added “negative points”  to their general wellbeing and they had succumbed to this... The problem is that no matter how similar the tap water is in different regions (like in your case) it will still be different...
Doing small but frequent water changes is the best course of action, I think...
I would monitor your “muck” for the time being as this may hold some clue...
I really understand how you feel with those little fellas... and looking into all of this, I cannot see anything you so far done wrong...
And accidentally, my own birthday is next week as well, so hello to you from a fellow “Libra”!