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Fish Health / Re: Dead honey gourami with a dark lump
« Last post by Andy The Minion on December 17, 2017, 09:38:24 PM »
I saw @fcmf mention heaters a few replies below. I tend to oversize heaters because a larger heater will not need to get as hot to transfer the same amount of energy as a small one and I would prefer to have the element running 'cool' for longevity reasons as well. Within reason it will not affect the temperature control performance (that is pants already :( ) nor will it cost more as it just on for less. The risky period is always as the tank comes up to temperature and the heater has to be on constantly for many hours - you will see the eliments glowing red inside the glass tube but this is avoided by the normal good practice of matching the temperature during water changes and you don't freeze the fins off the poor little devils either.
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Tank Equipment Reviews / Re: Euthanasia - products
« Last post by Andy The Minion on December 17, 2017, 09:20:38 PM »
A mallet!! That seems a tad excessive. They use a priest for big game fishing and these look a bit like a truncheon but I was once told that was a very painful method ......especially if you miss and get your thumb
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General Fishkeeping advice / Re: Matt's planning for 220 litre Aquaoak
« Last post by Matt on December 17, 2017, 07:51:11 PM »
Thanks @fcmf   :cheers:
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Fish Health / Re: Dead honey gourami with a dark lump
« Last post by Littlefish on December 17, 2017, 05:29:31 PM »
I hope that your new arrival settles in well.  :cheers:
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Tank Equipment Reviews / Re: Euthanasia - products
« Last post by Fishbeard on December 17, 2017, 04:01:46 PM »
I've never needed to euthanise a fish either - nature tends to get there first, but I've got a bottle of clove oil on hand just in case. I've heard of people using a mallet to kill fish, but I'm not sure I fancy it myself.
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Fish Health / Re: Dead honey gourami with a dark lump
« Last post by Sue on December 17, 2017, 03:37:18 PM »
That was lucky! Give her a couple of days to settle in.
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Tank Equipment Reviews / Re: Euthanasia - products
« Last post by Sue on December 17, 2017, 03:36:16 PM »
I have only ever used the clove oil method - but have learned recently that the oil/water mix should be added to the tub with the fish in very slowly over the course of 5 minutes.

There is actually another method recommended by experts over the clove oil/anaesthetic methods. But not everyone can do it. The reason that these experts prefer it is because it causes less suffering to the fish.



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The method that the experts prefer is to catch the fish and squash its head between your finger and thumb. If the fish is too big, quickly transfer it into a plastic bag and use something heavy that you have already placed close to hand to crush the head.
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Fish Health / Re: Dead honey gourami with a dark lump
« Last post by Matt on December 17, 2017, 03:30:26 PM »
Wow that's great news, I hope she settles in well.
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Tank Equipment Reviews / Euthanasia - products
« Last post by fcmf on December 17, 2017, 03:10:28 PM »
I've never carried out euthanasia, partly due to having had a fish make a complete u-turn and recover (and go on to live for another 4+ years) when imminent death had seemed inevitable, partly due to fear that the process would not go smoothly and partly because nature has taken its course before I've decided what to do. I know clove oil (+/- vodka to complete the process) is usually advocated but I've also read recently of high dosages of vet's anaesthetic Aqua-Sed being used to good effect and with calmer / more straightforward results. Has anyone ever tried this?
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Fish Health / Re: Dead honey gourami with a dark lump
« Last post by fcmf on December 17, 2017, 02:47:14 PM »
Wow - that sounds lucky/promising. Good for you.  :cheers:
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