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Frogs?
« on: November 18, 2014, 10:09:32 PM »
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My brother has just added 4 African Dwarf Frogs to his 300l tropical setup that contains 3 Platy, 3 Zebra Danios and a Betta (M). Will they be okay in this tank?

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Re: Frogs?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2014, 03:08:47 AM »
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i wouldnt keep frogs and tropical
fish together in the same tank
i know they only grow to about
two inches but they don't really work together

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Re: Frogs?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2014, 12:06:31 PM »
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Also worth bearing in mind this quote from sue from another thread......

..... frogs have very poor eyesight, and they can mistake a fish for food. One of my frogs bit my betta's tail so badly he got finrot. I saw the betta with a frog hanging on to his tail towing it around the tank.

 They do much better in a tank of their own.

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Re: Frogs?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2014, 01:24:36 PM »
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The problem with bettas is that they are such greedy things. If they find the frog's food they will eat it and if the frogs get there at the same time, they see a moving shape, assume it is food and lunge for it. I think this is what happened in my case.


Frogs are also tricky to feed. Because of their poor eyesight they find their food by smell - by which time the fish have usually eaten it all.
A lot of sources say frogs should be fed live or frozen live food - they should only be fed this as a treat. They need specialised frog food as the main diet. In the UK something like ZooMed frog and tadpole food. Provided the fish don't get it first.

Just to make sure - they are dwarf frogs not clawed frogs? Some shops don't know the difference and clawed will get big enough to eat the danios at least, maybe the other fish as well. Dwarf frogs have webbed front hands; clawed frogs do not have webbed front hands.

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Re: Frogs?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2014, 01:53:29 PM »
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I can't believe that frogs really need special frog food. I've seen plenty of frogs in the wild over the years, in more than one country, and they have all eaten nothing but live food. I can't see that frogs in captivity should be any different.

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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2014, 04:18:46 PM »
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The live food we can get, alive or frozen, is somewhat limited in choice. Frogs in the wild don't live on a diet of bloodworm alone, something you often see quoted as the only food frogs need. In the wild they would have a wide variety of live food which they don't get in captivity which is why it needs to be supplemented with specialist food. Fish food (flake, pellet etc) is formulated to suit the needs of fish; frog food is formulated to supply what the frog gets in the wild that bloodworm alone can't provide.
I'm not saying don't feed bloodworm but they do need something else as well. Fish fed exclusively on bloodworm would not be healthy yet so many sites say bloodworm is all frogs should eat.
Frogs also enjoy daphnia and brine shrimps.

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Re: Frogs?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2014, 04:22:13 PM »
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something alse to bear in mind and i apologise if iam wrong on this but frogs also need somewere to climb out of the water onto a rock or something which would mean haveing to lower the water level in the tank and iam also sure there great escape artist so a good sealed lid would be a god idea

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Re: Frogs?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2014, 04:32:17 PM »
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African dwarf frogs don't need to leave the water. They are fully aquatic.
But yes, they are escape artists. One of mine got out of the tank which was on the worktop in the kitchen sometime between our bedtime and breakfast time. I found it underneath the box we put the recycling during the day to move to the garage later. The box is on the floor a good 15 feet away from the tank. I had to plug all the holes with filter wool. I went to another forum with a frog specialist and shouted help - I now know exactly what to do for a dehydrated frog!

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Re: Frogs?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2014, 04:35:16 PM »
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Of course, I wouldn't feed anything on bloodworm or any other single food alone, but there is plenty of choice of live foods, provided you are prepared to find or breed it yourself, as opposed to relying on shop supplies.

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Re: Frogs?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2014, 04:40:13 PM »
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I should have put I my first post to ignore the sites that say frogs need to be fed only on bloodworm.
Yes, provided the owner can source a variety of live (alive or frozen) that's fine. It's feeding one live food exclusively that's bad.

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Re: Frogs?
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2014, 10:08:02 PM »
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I'll pass it on to my brother. Looks like he may need to invest in another tank...

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