Introduce Yourself!

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Offline Rootjj

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #560 on: February 28, 2016, 06:39:01 PM »
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Total beginner here (if you don't count the fairground goldfish I kept as a child!)  My husband has kept one or two small tanks a while ago, but hasn't had any for at least 10 years.

We've started with his old 50l hexagonal tank, planted a few live plants (which look SO much better than plastic!) and acquired about 4 or 5 snails in the process.  First batch of fish were 6 neon tetras, followed by some guppies and peppered corys a few weeks later.  We've lost a couple of fish so far  :(

Currently trying to cope with the basics and not lose any more fish.  Rapidly learning that you don't just get a tank populated and sit back to admire it - there's a fair bit of maintenance to do!  Already asked a couple of questions on here and very impressed with the knowledge and friendliness of the site

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Neon Tetra (6) - Salt and Pepper Catfish (2) - Guppy (male) (1) - Guppy (female) (2) -
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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #561 on: February 28, 2016, 06:47:32 PM »
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Welcome, Rootjj - have just been responding to your other thread  :)

Goldfish are wonderful (RIP your fairground goldfish) and tank maintenance is similar but tropical fishkeeping requires a different type of knowledge base (eg suitable fish for tank size and water type, compatibility of fish with one another, etc) and so can be a comparatively steep learning curve. We'll certainly do our best to help with any further questions.

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #562 on: February 28, 2016, 07:17:45 PM »
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Welcome Roomjj and good luck going forwards!

@fcmf  I would absolutely recommend sparkling gourami - they are my latest addition and they have quite unique characters, they interact well with both me and the other fish in the tank, they will appreciate some hiding spaces and floating plants. The ThinkFish profile picture makes them look a little 'dirtier' than in real life, mine are silver with blue neon spots and a striking blue eye.

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #563 on: February 28, 2016, 07:40:21 PM »
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Thanks, Matt - the sparkling gourami have always tempted me (what I've read of them - I've never actually seen them) and what you're telling me is tempting me even more although I'd be at risk of overstocking my tank if I got them now. Out of interest, have you heard the males making croaking sounds yet and is it quite loud ie would it antagonise the other tankmates and be audible from a neighbouring room?

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #564 on: February 28, 2016, 07:43:14 PM »
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I haven't heard it no, I found a video of them doing it at one point - it was like a clicking, barely audible above the other tank equipment.

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« Reply #565 on: February 28, 2016, 09:10:08 PM »
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I had them several years ago. I did hear them croaking - more a sort of football rattle sound. I could just about hear it from the other end of the room if it was quiet.

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #566 on: May 25, 2016, 05:35:12 PM »
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hi my names jack and have recently set up my juwel rio 180 and have added 6 harlequin and was wondering what fish would go well in a community tank i have been looking at:
electric blue rams
emperor tetras
platys
mollies
1 green phantom pleco
1 blue phantom pleco
2 silver sharks
dwarf gourmi
and so on please help
I also have a external filter which is a 1000EF< and thats all i know about it? would be very greatful if someone could tell me where to get the media or what not for it?
and sorry if this is on the wrong page i have no idea what im doing on this forum...

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Siamese Fighting Fish (male) (1) - Angelfish (2) - Ram / Butterfly Cichlid (2) - Golden Nugget Plec (1) - Rainbow Shark (1) - Rummy Nose Tetra (3) - Dwarf Gourami (4) - Cherry Barb (10) - Bristlenose Plec (3) - Japonica Shrimp (15) - Marbled Hatchetfish (3) - Otocinclus (6) - Rosy Tetra (5) - Bleeding Heart Tetra (5) - Black Neon Tetra (6) - Assassin Snail (1) - Ram / Butterfly Cichlid (3) - Peacock Goby (3) - Kuhli Loach (aka Coolie) (5) - Panda Cory (8) - Rainbow Shark (2) - Siamese Fighting Fish (male) (1) -
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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #567 on: May 25, 2016, 05:41:32 PM »
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and sorry if this is on the wrong page i have no idea what im doing on this forum...

We won't hold it against you  ;) Hello and welcome.

Have you kept fish before and hav you heard of cycling a tank? If not we can help you with that.

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #568 on: May 25, 2016, 05:44:06 PM »
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Hello Jack, and welcome to the forum.

The first, and most important, question is.... have you cycled your tank? If you haven't, then it's vital that you do for the health of your fish. We'll help you with all you need to know, but please don't be tempted to add any more fish until that's all sorted out.

EDIT: I see Fiona's beaten me to it!

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Panda Cory (7) - Honey Gourami (3) - Ember Tetra (9) - Lemon Tetra (4) - Cherry Barb (1) - Otocinclus (2) -
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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #569 on: May 25, 2016, 05:47:52 PM »
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Welcome along Jack! All the best with your new aquarium, you'll find all the answers you're after here.  8) 8)

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #570 on: May 25, 2016, 05:56:56 PM »
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i kept goldfish years ago i know people that have fish ive done a hell of a lot of research
ive put 7 real plants 1 bog wood and an air pump in my tank and thats about as much as i know but my tank was second hand and came with mature media which was only stopped about 2 hours before i set it up

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Siamese Fighting Fish (male) (1) - Angelfish (2) - Ram / Butterfly Cichlid (2) - Golden Nugget Plec (1) - Rainbow Shark (1) - Rummy Nose Tetra (3) - Dwarf Gourami (4) - Cherry Barb (10) - Bristlenose Plec (3) - Japonica Shrimp (15) - Marbled Hatchetfish (3) - Otocinclus (6) - Rosy Tetra (5) - Bleeding Heart Tetra (5) - Black Neon Tetra (6) - Assassin Snail (1) - Ram / Butterfly Cichlid (3) - Peacock Goby (3) - Kuhli Loach (aka Coolie) (5) - Panda Cory (8) - Rainbow Shark (2) - Siamese Fighting Fish (male) (1) -
Note: The user may not necessarily own these fish, these are tanks that they may be building or researching for stocking purposes


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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #571 on: May 25, 2016, 06:00:25 PM »
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i kept goldfish years ago i know people that have fish ive done a hell of a lot of research
ive put 7 real plants 1 bog wood and an air pump in my tank and thats about as much as i know but my tank was second hand and came with mature media which was only stopped about 2 hours before i set it up

Do you have a tester kit? If so, which? It seems like you have most likely inherited an active colony of bacteria so it is likely you are cycled. Although it depends on what has been disturbed/replaced in your setup...

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #572 on: May 25, 2016, 06:05:38 PM »
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i dont have a tester kit but i did take my water to pets at home they tested it for me and said the water was fine

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Siamese Fighting Fish (male) (1) - Angelfish (2) - Ram / Butterfly Cichlid (2) - Golden Nugget Plec (1) - Rainbow Shark (1) - Rummy Nose Tetra (3) - Dwarf Gourami (4) - Cherry Barb (10) - Bristlenose Plec (3) - Japonica Shrimp (15) - Marbled Hatchetfish (3) - Otocinclus (6) - Rosy Tetra (5) - Bleeding Heart Tetra (5) - Black Neon Tetra (6) - Assassin Snail (1) - Ram / Butterfly Cichlid (3) - Peacock Goby (3) - Kuhli Loach (aka Coolie) (5) - Panda Cory (8) - Rainbow Shark (2) - Siamese Fighting Fish (male) (1) -
Note: The user may not necessarily own these fish, these are tanks that they may be building or researching for stocking purposes


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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #573 on: May 25, 2016, 06:43:12 PM »
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i dont have a tester kit but i did take my water to pets at home they tested it for me and said the water was fine

Good for you. In all probability it is fine. Just to let you in on our general feelings towards Pets At Home... They are a good source of kit etc for your tank and occasionally you get the odd worker in there who knows their stuff but a lot of them only know what they learn on their "fish retailer" course and aren't experienced in fishkeeping.

So they have weird policies like my local P@H which won't sell me more than 8 fish at a time which was useless when I wanted about 20 fish to start off my stock after my fishless cycle. They didn't listen to me when I said I needed a minimum of 20 to keep the nitrogen cycle going in my tank or else the bacteria would go dormant and I would struggle to maintain the parameters.

Generally their prices are mid-range as well. Do you have a local independent fish stockist?

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #574 on: May 25, 2016, 07:03:41 PM »
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I am a big fan of my local aquatics centres. The staff are friendly, they all keep fish and are very tolerant of us newbies. The local Maidenhead aquatics is staffed by quite young people, but they all seem to have been keeping fish since they were barely out of nappies, will chat for hours whilst showing pictures of their own fish tanks, and are quite happy to have a chuckle about the addictive nature of fish keeping. At the other one I go to (Amwell Aquatics in Soham) the staff I have met there seem to be obsessed with fish and have an apparently encyclopaedic knowledge of them. It never ceases to amaze me. They are also kind proud of some of their more unusual tropical fish and (on a good day) will feed them so that you can see unusual behavioural characteristics. Last Friday I saw a leaf fish yawn, it was amazing. They were also quite cool when they were feeding. Before anyone asks, no I didn't buy any.
I have even (only once mind you) met a member of staff at P@H who was an avid fish keeper and spent quite some time discussing aquatic plants with me.
It is great to get the information from this site and the experienced keepers on this forum. It is also very useful if you manage to find a local aquatics place that you can trust.  :)

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #575 on: May 25, 2016, 07:11:41 PM »
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Welcome, Jack :wave:

I'd also advise buying your own test kit. While it's helpful to get water test results done at whatever LFS you find is best, the problem with this is that the test results are only valid on the day they're done. If you have your own test kit, then you can test as/when you like, daily if need be.

Find out what your water hardness is by entering your postcode into your water company's website. Once we know what that is, then we should be able to help you work out the most suitable fish from your list for your tank.

Looking forward to hearing how your tank progresses and what you ultimately decide to stock it with as well as the harlequins which are lovely fish - I have them too.

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #576 on: May 25, 2016, 07:17:30 PM »
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Hi Jalot  :wave:

Every fishkeeper does really need heir own test kits - to test for ammonia, nitrite and pH at the minimum. Liquid reagent testers cost more to buy than strips but work out cheaper per test. And master kits contain ammonia testers which a lot of strips don't. The problem with getting water tested by a shop is first they aren't open 24/7 and something usually goes wrong when they've just shut; and shops tend to say things like fine when they're not fine.

If the tank came with mature media that was running with fish right up till the time you took it, you should still have the majority of the bacteria. You'll probably have lost a few during transit but not many.
Don't forget though that you'll have only enough bacteria to deal with the ammonia made by the number of fish the last owner had in there. If it was lightly stocked, you'll be OK adding fish to the amount he had, but go slowly from there.


You have both hard and soft water fish on your list - mollies need hard water while tetras and gouramis prefer soft water, though some species would be OK in middling hard. Do you know how hard your tap water is? You should be able to find it somewhere on your water company's website.

But looking at your fish list in general -
Silver sharks, Balantiocheilos melanopterus, is a shoaling species which means at least 6 of them but they are HUGE fish. They grow up to 35 cm long and need a tank with a footprint of 240 x 60 cm.
Dwarf gouramis are often infected by an incurable disease by the time they reach the shop. If you really do want these fish, look very carefully at all the fish in the tank and don't buy any if even just one looks a bit iffy. or get another type of gourami - honeys and pearls would be fine for your tank.
One or other of the plecs.
Emperor tetras. I used to have some of these and they were like a swarm of locusts in the tank. They drove me nuts so I part-exed them for some pencilfish. If you don't mind hyperactive, greedy fish, they're fine.




fcmf just beat me to it, so I'll end by agreeing with her - once we know how hard your water is, we can go from there.

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #577 on: May 25, 2016, 07:25:29 PM »
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this is the only thing i can find on my water: Staffordshire - Slightly to moderately hard

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Siamese Fighting Fish (male) (1) - Angelfish (2) - Ram / Butterfly Cichlid (2) - Golden Nugget Plec (1) - Rainbow Shark (1) - Rummy Nose Tetra (3) - Dwarf Gourami (4) - Cherry Barb (10) - Bristlenose Plec (3) - Japonica Shrimp (15) - Marbled Hatchetfish (3) - Otocinclus (6) - Rosy Tetra (5) - Bleeding Heart Tetra (5) - Black Neon Tetra (6) - Assassin Snail (1) - Ram / Butterfly Cichlid (3) - Peacock Goby (3) - Kuhli Loach (aka Coolie) (5) - Panda Cory (8) - Rainbow Shark (2) - Siamese Fighting Fish (male) (1) -
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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #578 on: May 25, 2016, 07:35:34 PM »
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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #579 on: May 25, 2016, 07:43:04 PM »
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That's the best I've got

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Siamese Fighting Fish (male) (1) - Angelfish (2) - Ram / Butterfly Cichlid (2) - Golden Nugget Plec (1) - Rainbow Shark (1) - Rummy Nose Tetra (3) - Dwarf Gourami (4) - Cherry Barb (10) - Bristlenose Plec (3) - Japonica Shrimp (15) - Marbled Hatchetfish (3) - Otocinclus (6) - Rosy Tetra (5) - Bleeding Heart Tetra (5) - Black Neon Tetra (6) - Assassin Snail (1) - Ram / Butterfly Cichlid (3) - Peacock Goby (3) - Kuhli Loach (aka Coolie) (5) - Panda Cory (8) - Rainbow Shark (2) - Siamese Fighting Fish (male) (1) -
Note: The user may not necessarily own these fish, these are tanks that they may be building or researching for stocking purposes


 


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