Cycling With Fish? On Yer Bike!

"There's just too many people in Australia for their delicate ecosystem to cope with"
Hardly! Virtually all Aussies live in cities, their population is a fraction of ours in a country many times larger. They just want to keep all the money from exploiting their resources for themselves.

Developing countries are far and away the least polluting, the richer the people the more their country pollutes.

The UK is no better, I'm presently involved in an ecological survey of a site full of wildlife interest, but it is sure to be developed because the developers promise 8,000 jobs will result. Which politician will vote for environment over jobs?

 :-[Oooh err, these discussions can certainly get "in depth" can't they, well all i can say on the matter now is, Money and Power will usually win over everything else, and sex and religion will always cause problems at every level. As for my fake coral reef, i'm already on plan B. 

I don't know the details, but the conservation workers I was volunteering with felt that Australia was overpopulated. Most of the country is desert, so comparing it with ours is perhaps not relevant anyway we dramatically changed our environment hundreds of years ago, perhaps these Aussie environmentalists were hoping not to do the same over there.

:-[Oooh err, these discussions can certainly get "in depth" can't they, well all i can say on the matter now is, Money and Power will usually win over everything else, and sex and religion will always cause problems at every level. As for my fake coral reef, i'm already on plan B. 

A warm welcome to the "Off-topic" police.  It's nice to have some company, the rabble in these parts just doesn't understand discipline I'm afraid! 

Well it all adds to the interest of the site  thanks all

Excellent - welcome aboard! We can learn a lot from off-topic stuff so don't worry about Steve, he's cute and cuddly really, though he pretends he isn't.