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Tropical Fish Keeping Help and Advice => The Emergency Room => Topic started by: Alex_N on October 11, 2015, 05:10:26 PM

Title: Poorly Penguin
Post by: Alex_N on October 11, 2015, 05:10:26 PM
I've just found a penguin belly up and stuck on the filter intake. He's still alive and breathing but doesn't look like it's got any buoyancy. Is this a swim bladder problem?
I've but the poor soul in a hatchery so it's put of harms way. (the Krib fry are still with dad) I've given a bit of food and has been trying to feed but with little success.
There doesn't seem to be anything else wrong, no white spot or other injurys/infection.
There's been a bit squabbling between the shoal, so I'm assuming he's been hit hard by a tank mate.
Is there anything I can do?
Title: Re: Poorly Penguin
Post by: Sue on October 11, 2015, 06:25:49 PM
All you can do realistically is wait. He is separated from the others so they can't pick on him, and it is easier for you to see him and spot any changes. If you can manage to put something in with him to make him feel more secure, it would help. I use bits of plastic or silk plant.

But other than that, just wait and watch, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Poorly Penguin
Post by: Alex_N on October 11, 2015, 08:14:21 PM
I thought that might be the case. Thanks Sue.
Title: Re: Poorly Penguin
Post by: Alex_N on October 11, 2015, 11:58:05 PM
I've not long just found another penguin in a similar situation. But was fine an hour ago when I last looked in on them.
He has also been quarantined.
I would assume that if it is an issue with the water the fry would be the first to suffer.
Any ideas?
Title: Re: Poorly Penguin
Post by: Sue on October 12, 2015, 01:26:16 PM
Fry are usually the first to suffer, but I have had an exception to that. Several years ago I had pure endlers (bought from breeders who could trace them back to the wild). Being livebearers, the tank had adults and fry. I found some pencilfish I'd been looking for for ages and put them in the same tank without quarantining. The pencilfish all died within 24 hours, then the adult endlers died one by one. I ended up with a tank of nothing but endler fry.

How long have you had the penguins? Some diseases can take several weeks to become apparent. Or perhaps the female krib was sick when she died not just bullied by the male, and she's passed something on.
The other thing that springs to mind is the male krib. Is he being over protective?

I am reluctant to suggest adding a medication with fry in the same tank - assuming the hatchery you mentioned is one of those that goes inside the main tank. If you have somewhere you could medicate the penguins away from the main tank I would suggest trying eSHa 2000 as the best we can get in the UK.
Title: Re: Poorly Penguin
Post by: Alex_N on October 12, 2015, 02:01:00 PM
I've not long tested the water and it's all fine.
I've had them about 6 weeks.
Yeah it is an in tank hatchery, my nursery tank hasn't finished cycling yet. It should be finished by the end of the week.
Thanks again for the help.