RIP "the Little Guy"

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RIP "the little guy"
« on: November 24, 2016, 07:45:27 PM »
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I've titled this encouraging a fish to eat as this is what my brain is telling me I need to do...

Basically one of my sparkling gourami has a bit of fin damage so I'm not sure what may have started this, but he is looking very thin and is swimming lethargically resting on the horizontal anubias leaves 'sulking'. I have done a little water change and cleaned the filter but I think the chances of little guy surviving the night would be vastly improved if he would just eat something... any tips??

Edited to add: he'll come to the surface but doesn't seem to be that interested in the food other than looking at it...

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2016, 07:53:10 PM »
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What kind of food have you tried him with? Most fish will eat live or frozen food unless they are in a very bad way. Other people report success in soaking flakes or pellets in garlic juice - though I have read that garlic isn't terribly good for fish. But a one off to tempt your gourami won't do any harm.

Though I have to say that going off their food is a symptom there is something wrong, and especially if the fish is also skinny as it shows it hasn't been eating properly for some time. The damaged fin also suggests something is not right with the gourami  :-\

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2016, 07:56:14 PM »
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Thanks Sue, I'm preparing for the worst as I agree that the outlook isn't good... you have reminded me that in have some of that gel based food in the little sachets which I'm going to try now, also using dimmed light to try and encourage him a little...

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2016, 08:05:06 PM »
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Update: I've managed to drop a couple of blobs of the gel food (brine shrimp) onto 'his leaf' in the hope this might tempt him..

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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2016, 08:09:18 PM »
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Fingers crossed.

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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2016, 08:44:40 PM »
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Keeping my fingers crossed for you and your gourami.
Best of luck.

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2016, 09:29:07 PM »
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Sue has suggested what I would have suggested ie live/frozen food (but your gel version should also be suitable) or garlic (although I've never tried that one as I only learned of it in the last couple of years since using the forum). I've also read of people feeding Repashy Soilent Green to fish with loss of appetite or with swimbladder problems, to good effect - however, I've no experience of using it myself and I can't comment on whether it's any better than what you're already trying.

With goldfish, I might have recommended a dose of aquarium salt in such a situation, but it seems that many tropical fish don't respond well to that, so probably best avoided.

Fingers tightly crossed for you both.

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2016, 10:38:30 PM »
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No news is good news at present, no change in condition although possibly more lethargic tonight.  Tried my best again to feed him but cannot tell either way if I've been successful (didn't want to be stood over the tank potentially stressing it out...)

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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2016, 07:14:21 PM »
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Nope I'm afraid to report that having just returned home after being out all day, the little guy is looking to be on a definite downwards spiral.  If he makes the night there will have to be some serious thought tomorrow as to what course of action would be most in his interest...  :'(

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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2016, 09:38:08 AM »
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Thinking of you and the little guy. Hope either that he's had a miraculous overnight recovery (ideally) or that nature has taken its course peacefully, sparing you a difficult decision.

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2016, 01:00:33 PM »
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Well decision made...

A massive water change completed as peacefully as possible with maximum gravel  cleaning, removal of any plant matter which didnt look in absolutely perfect health and the creation of some hiding places.  With a bit of luck I'll be nursing this guy back to health.

Extra effort to be made tonight to feed him.

Off to research what meds might help and will probably do a mini dose in the main community tank.

Wish me luck!!

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2016, 01:57:31 PM »
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I just managed to hand feed him  O:-)

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2016, 03:18:00 PM »
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So glad to hear that he has eaten.  :)

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2016, 04:29:38 PM »
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Oooooh, I'm pleased to read this.

I agree that a mini dose of whatever medication you opt for is probably the best plan.

Fingers very tightly crossed that you'll be able to nurse him back to health. "Good luck" vibes being sent across as I type.

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2016, 07:11:39 PM »
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Today has been designated a feeding up day and tomorrow will probably also be.  Once, hopefully, the little guy has regained some strength, he'll be put into a salt dip... have done 3 feedings today, can't be sure how much was eaten but anything is better than nothing, and being such a tiny fish a little goes a long way I suppose!  :-\

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2016, 07:55:30 AM »
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No new recruits into fishy heaven overnight.  He'll have to look after himself though whilst I'm at work.  :-[

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2016, 07:35:00 PM »
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the little guy

"the little guy" passed peacefully just now. :'(

He had a happy life  :fishy1:

My attention now turns to his friends in the hope that they will not meet the same fate.
It can be so easy to find abnormal behaviour when your looking for it, but the others are eating well so I am hoping whatever it was, is not infectious.

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Re: Encouraging a fish to eat
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2016, 07:54:10 PM »
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"the little guy" passed peacefully just now. :'(

:'( indeed. I was just looking at the clock and realised it was exactly 10 years ago today, at this very hour, since my beautiful veiltail goldfish died, and thinking with a heavy heart how much I missed her. I then decided to check how your "little guy" was doing and hoping for a different outcome - so I'm very sorry to read about this. :'( My sincere condolences.

Best wishes for the other fish, and hopefully it's of some consolation that you did your best / all that could have been done with the "little guy".



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Re: RIP "the little guy"
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2016, 09:21:37 PM »
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@Matt so sorry to hear that the little guy has passed away.  :(
I was hoping that things would be more positive after you managed to feed him.
My thoughts are with you and the rest of your gang.

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Re: RIP "the little guy"
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2016, 09:34:43 PM »
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swimming lethargically resting ... 'sulking'. I have done a little water change

Unfortunately I seem to be having a repeat... with one of my German blue rams.

Only other symptom I can identify is that she seems to be breathing a little more heavily than normal... any ideas what medication might be effective from anyone out there?

 :'(

Is it even possible for something like this to reoccurring a full month later?

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