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Cory floating upside down...help
« on: June 11, 2018, 05:48:03 PM »
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Hiya, after thinking all was well from holiday, the cory isn't doing that great. He's now swimming in a kind of spiral, he heads up to the top of the tank then spins his way back down but usually gets stuck in the plants, usually upside down.

I've still not got a quarantine tank, but was wondering if I should pop him in a little net spawning box? in the tank just so he doesn't get stuck in awkward position?

Advice welcome

meant to also say he's got a white spot on his nose? not sure if relevant, and he's panting like mad?

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2018, 07:20:52 PM »
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Hmmm - that's not sounding too good/promising, especially with the heavy panting, I'm afraid.

Do you have another container that you could substitute for a QT, filter and heater? If so, then you could move a small portion of filter media into the filter and treat him with something like Waterlife Myxazin or eSHa 2000. If not, then the spawning box might be an option for him to move into, to prevent him getting stuck awkwardly or getting stressed by his own antics.


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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2018, 09:00:13 PM »
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I know, my issue is keep meaning to get a QT but not got round to it yet. Not good I know, Iíll get something tomorrow and set up,  if he lasts that long  :-\
Heís back at the bottom again so Iíll leave him as unless heís actually floating itís hard to catch him.
Iíll keep you posted.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2018, 09:46:51 PM »
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This is a good thread if you are looking for a hospital tank. It has a few suggestions as well. I was able to get one from the stock of my local MA.

https://forums.thinkfish.co.uk/fish-tanks-and-equipment/recommendation-for-hospital-tank/

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2018, 10:30:34 PM »
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You say he has a white spot on his nose, has he still got his barbels ? They sometimes get worn away by rooting in the gravel.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2018, 08:14:28 AM »
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How is your cory today?

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2018, 10:44:50 AM »
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Another case of fingers crossed that he's ok today... 

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2018, 01:02:15 PM »
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Hi all, not managed to see him today, when I leave for work the lights aren't on. I've just bought a 25 litre tank from @Helen thread, and a heater so i'll set up tonight if he's still around.

As for the white spot, his barbels do look rather short.

The girl in the LFS also gave me bacteria for the hospital tank, but I thought if I just added some of the ceramic rings from my main filter along with water from the tank and some plants and maybe one of the smaller bits of wood for him to hide under, would I also need to add this bacteria? (you'll probably ask me what I've got but I've left it in the car as back in work now!!)

I'll report back when I get home, keeping everything crossed.


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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2018, 01:30:01 PM »
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Fingers crossed.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2018, 03:07:43 PM »
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The filter media and plants from the main tank should be enough. Just keep an eye on the ammonia and nitrite levels.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2018, 03:48:22 PM »
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cool thanks that what I thought.

Going to leave work sharp tonight so I can get set up and see how he is.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2018, 08:52:35 PM »
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hiya reports from Al today is that wee cory has still been spinning  :( I've got the new tank set up now, after practically destroying the living room and somehow, I think in my slight stressed state, managed to get water everywhere as well!

Hospital tank is a Superfish Home 25, I've replaced the media in the filter that came with the tank (some sponge and carbon) with some of my main filter sponge and 6 ceramic rings, added some plants wood and rocks as well, with a clean sandy bottom.

Everything is working, just trying to regulate temp between the two. Will "points" of degrees matter too much, i.e. if he comes of out water that 76.8 into water that 77 will that be bad or does that small difference not make much difference?

LFS gave me Aqua Care Anti-Internal Bacteria to put in, they didn't have the one mentioned in the thread Helen sent, so assuming that'll be OK? assuming of course it is something bacterial?

Should I also just keep the lights off for him? And should I feed him, was thinking maybe I should try the peas, and at least I'll know if he gets some of them in case it is something to do with what he's been eating, or should I just give him to cory tabs? That is assuming of course he does come out and I can catch him, it might be a long night!

On the plus side tough wee guy is still hanging in there!

Oh finally will he be even more stressed out being on his own? but don't suppose I can help that?

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2018, 09:16:04 PM »
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I wouldn't have thought that tiny temperature difference would matter- especially considering that a lot of tank thermometers are not digital, so that difference wouldn't be noticed.
I've used the Aqua Care product that you've been given, and it did work for the problem I had with my tiger barbs previously.
I would be tempted to keep the lights off and not feed him for now, but the others may have more experience with this situation.
He'll be fine on his own in the quarantine tank, especially as you've given him some plants and stuff to make it feel comfortable for him.

Best of luck to both of you.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2018, 10:23:48 PM »
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Thanks Littlefish.

Final update before going to bed, I'm done in, is that normal??

I've actually got two corys in the wee tank ??? I got one in after he done a total freak out spinning madly as if stuck on the side of the tank but this time spinning with his head being he central point of a circle, if you get my drift. So I thought "great I've got him", but then another one in the main tank did the original spinning and floating upside down, so put him in too as now thinking it's something that might be spreading  :(

Let's see what tomorrow brings.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2018, 06:09:07 AM »
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Make sure to do regular water  tests and water changes. Not only is nice fresh water great for fish health. If you are dosing something which is anti bacterial in some way it could easily affect the filter bacteria you have transferred over.  Good luck!

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2018, 09:30:35 AM »
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Leave the lights off. A dim tank is more calming for fish, and some medications work better in 'less strong' light. The plants should be OK for the duration.

Bear in mind that everything in the hospital tank will be 'contaminated' with the medication which could potentially kill shrimps and snails when they are returned to the main tank, if you have any.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2018, 07:38:12 PM »
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hiya thanks for all the comments again. I've only got pest snails and probably don't need to put the stuff back in the tank anyway, it actually looks better now as it was a bit busy.

The two wee guys are still in the land of the living, although one just demonstrated the upside down floating for me their still not right.

They've been in darkness since they went in and I've not fed them, should I give them something to eat? Ammonia and Nitrite all OK and temp is 73 which was a bit lower than the main tank does this seem OK or would lower or indeed higher be better, think cory range is 68 - 82?

Finally, the treatment says to dose every other day for 4 treatments, so I'll follow that, but probably need to report back if nothing has changed as to what to do next, if they are still the same.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2018, 07:42:00 PM »
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Cories like water a bit cooler than most other fish so 73 deg F (23 deg C) is fine for them.

Fingers crossed.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2018, 07:43:50 PM »
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thanks sue, should I give them something to eat? they didn't have anything yesterday.

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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2018, 07:49:30 PM »
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I would feed them but not as much as they would normally eat.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2018, 07:51:54 PM »
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cool feeding time it is. Ta

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2018, 08:42:32 PM »
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Glad to hear that your cories are hanging in there.

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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2018, 06:53:47 PM »
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HIya, was away this weekend so wasn't sure what I'd come back to but the cories are still in the land of the living  :). They are swimming about in sync and no mad twirling behaviour that I've seen so far, and eating normally.

They've had four doses of medicine. One does however still have a white dot on it's nose, it still has it's barbles, so I'm not really sure what it is and I think it might be a wee bit smaller now.

So what do you think about me popping them back in the main tank tomorrow, or should I keep them in here for a while to see what happens with the spot and keep dosing? Or should I get another treatment, maybe for fungus, although I'm not sure what the spot is?

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2018, 09:03:39 PM »
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Great news.  :)

So glad to hear that your cories are doing better.  :cheers:

As for the white spot on the nose of the one cory, is the spot raised, or fuzzy?

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2018, 09:42:16 PM »
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hiya Donna, it's hard to say it doesn't really look either, wonder if it has just bumped himself and that what maybe caused the mad swimming. But that said not sure why the other one did it too, and he doesn't have any marks on him. Bit of a conundrum?

I'll see if I can get a better look at him, probably need to put the light on to see properly, peering with my iPhone torch doesn't really cut it!

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2018, 06:47:36 PM »
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Good news the 2 wee guys are back in the main tank and look to be doing OK  :cheers:

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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2018, 06:56:15 PM »
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Great news.  :cheers:

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2018, 07:09:52 PM »
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Excellent...!!!  Well done Lynne...   :D

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Great stuff.  ;D

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« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2018, 10:36:01 PM »
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Good news that youíve nursed them back to health. Well done.

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Re: Cory floating upside down...help
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2018, 10:40:37 PM »
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So glad to have a positive outcome to this!  I must admit I wasn't sure if things were going to end positively here.  Really good news that it has  :D

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