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Title: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Andys101 on December 28, 2016, 03:14:30 PM
Hello all.
I'm new to this lark  :yikes: but it's something that I have wanted to do for years!
My other half and I bought a Rio 240 before Xmas, so far we have filled it with water,  planted and aquascaped a little and today threw in the first half dozen fish, harlequin rasbora.
It is so relaxing to watch, I may get rid of the TV!
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Clarapup on December 28, 2016, 03:39:12 PM
Hello Husband. Fancy seeing you on here  :D
Think we should clarify, we didn't throw the fish in. We gently escorted them into their luxurious new abode  :)
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Sue on December 28, 2016, 03:44:23 PM
Hi Andys101 and Clarapup :wave:



That's a nice sized tank, I only have a 180 litre......

Did you do a fishless cycle before getting the fish? By this I mean add ammonia, following the method on here.
If you didn't you will be doing a fish-in cycle and need to monitor the ammonia and nitrite levels daily. There is a sticky in the Filtration & Cycling section on how to cycle with fish.
If you have live plants, they will help but be sure to remove any dead leaves - some plants tend to lose them when newly planted.

With half a dozen harlies in that sized tank you shouldn't have any problems though. Just add more fish a few at a time.



Glad to hear the fish were gently added to the tank  ;D
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: fcmf on December 28, 2016, 03:52:52 PM
Hi both :wave:

Greetings to Canterbury where I lived for a short while at the end of the last century. :)

Thanks for the clarification that the fish were added gently.

I agree entirely that there's no need for a TV once you get fish. ;D

Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Littlefish on December 28, 2016, 08:27:19 PM
Hi there both of you, and welcome to the forum.  :wave:

Nice to see that you have gone for quite a substantial tank to start with. I started small, got addicted, and have been upgrading ever since. The only issue I now have is that I haven't got rid of any of the smaller tanks, and have got a bit carried away with the whole thing.  :-[  ;D

I had to laugh at the difference in descriptions of introducing the new fish. Brilliant.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: MarquisMirage on December 29, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
Hello and welcome to the forum. :D
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: ColinB on December 30, 2016, 04:37:16 PM
Hello there, and welcome to the forum.... the best place for... for... err... I think a few of us keep chickens, actually. :)
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Clarapup on December 31, 2016, 01:38:35 AM
We kept chickens for many years!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Andys101 on January 02, 2017, 12:15:51 AM
Hi Sue.
Ran the tank for a week then added safety start and the fish, we have been testing the water every day since adding the fish and all readings are spot on.
One of the fish karked it after one day but it looked a little suspect initially :'(
The plants are looking good with fresh growth clearly visible.
Andy.

Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Sue on January 02, 2017, 09:11:17 AM
I find that with commercially bred shoaling fish I often lose one or two shortly after purchase. When I restocked my 180 litre this summer (I had the nasty form of whitespot that wiped out most of the tank) I bought 2 shoals, 18 ricefish and 18 hengels rasboras which are related to and resemble harlequins. I have not found any dead ricefish though it is difficult to count them all, but I did lose 3 rasboras in the first couple of weeks. And found another dried up on the floor. And I lost a peacock gudgeon.

With 240 litres, if you add fish slowly you should be fine. It's when people add the same amount of fish to a 50 litre tank that they run into trouble. I would monitor the water daily for a month, and then for a week after each batch of fish are added. If you see any ammonia and/or nitrite, water changes will keep the fish safe.
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Andy The Minion on January 02, 2017, 09:35:26 AM
Okay there's an expression I haven't heard, 'karked it'. I'm wondering if @Clarapup is going to give an alternative explanation?  ::)
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Sue on January 02, 2017, 09:47:43 AM
I've heard it before when I was young. Maybe it's exclusively English  ;)
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Clarapup on January 02, 2017, 09:55:45 AM
Yes we did indeed have one that popped it's clogs  ::) ;)

Although I had thought it wasn't looking right from the offset. The others are doing brilliantly. We are testing the water daily. No spikes as yet.

This is going to be a slow set up so we don't stock too quickly and then see something we really fancy and don't have room for.

Meanwhile I am not very subtly working on getting a shrimp tank as I am seriously taken with them
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Andy The Minion on January 02, 2017, 09:59:10 AM
@Sue
Snigger, you have been speaking to my English language teacher. I'm from Brighton ;D
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Andys101 on January 02, 2017, 10:02:23 AM
Shrimp  :yikes:
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Sue on January 02, 2017, 10:06:39 AM
@Sue
Snigger, you have been speaking to my English language teacher. I'm from Brighton ;D

So not that far from Canterbury then. That's a long way from Scotland.



Hmmm, maybe you forgot English sayings when you crossed the border  ;D

Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Sue on January 02, 2017, 10:07:10 AM
Shrimp  :yikes:

Have you found a shrimp in your tank that you didn't put there?
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Clarapup on January 02, 2017, 10:12:53 AM
Shrimp  :yikes:

Have you found a shrimp in your tank that you didn't put there?

No, I'm planning on getting another tank and putting shrimp in it and hoping he won't notice. Might do it when he's working on the Landy in the garage. I have my eye on one on eBay,  and know his account details ...
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Sue on January 02, 2017, 10:16:22 AM
Go for it!


I have red cherry shrimp and wouldn't be without them  :)
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Andys101 on January 02, 2017, 10:18:17 AM
 :yikes:

Account details changed! :rotfl: :raspberries
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Littlefish on January 02, 2017, 10:39:38 AM
 :rotfl:

I have amano shrimp in several of my tanks and I enjoy watching them.
I would certainly consider a shrimp tank in the future, possibly with the 34L tank that the betta used to have.
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: fcmf on January 02, 2017, 10:42:52 AM
Go for it!

I have red cherry shrimp and wouldn't be without them  :)

Ha - coincidentally, I was researching shrimp yesterday, as I was beginning to think a shrimp-only tank might be all the space I could amount to creating. Red cherry shrimp were what I came up with too as the best option.

Okay there's an expression I haven't heard, 'karked it'. I'm wondering if @Clarapup is going to give an alternative explanation?  ::)

I certainly know that expression, and I only lived in England for a short while.
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Littlefish on January 02, 2017, 10:57:50 AM
"Karked it" is also used in Cardiff, as well as Cambridge.  :)
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: MarquisMirage on January 02, 2017, 05:03:14 PM
My wife has a 30 l shrimp only tank.  They are cherry shrimp (neocaridina davidi).  She bought reds and blues which created chocolate when they bred.  They breed so quickly we frequently give the local MA a bunch for free.  I've volunteered for darkness (my betta) to go in with them for some population control but it hasn't happened yet. 

I think you should all go out and buy a shrimp tank now.  Go on.  *nudge, nudge*
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Sue on January 02, 2017, 05:19:26 PM
When did Neocaridina heteropoda get changed to N. davidi? I know that taxonomists are always changing names but I missed that one.


Google tells me it was 2013!!!
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: fcmf on January 02, 2017, 05:33:54 PM
They are cherry shrimp (neocaridina davidi).  They breed so quickly we frequently give the local MA a bunch for free.  I've volunteered for darkness (my betta) to go in with them for some population control but it hasn't happened yet. 
I think you should all go out and buy a shrimp tank now.  Go on.  *nudge, nudge*
I'm sure I read somewhere on here yesterday that amano shrimp are less likely to breed, is that correct?
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Littlefish on January 02, 2017, 05:43:50 PM
I think amano shrimp eggs need brackish water to hatch.
One of my amano shrimp laid eggs a while back, and they were all eaten by the tetras. That fact that they wouldnt have hatched in my freshwater tank made me feel a bit better about that.
Title: Re: Hello from Canterbury.
Post by: Sue on January 02, 2017, 06:52:33 PM
Amano larvae do need brackish water to survive. In the wild they get washed downriver where they spend some time as larvae then either just before or just after (forget which) they metamorphose into adults, they make their way back upstream.
Nerite snails do the same thing which is why they don't over populate a tank.