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New Fishkeepers / Re: Water Conditioner Advice
« Last post by Sue on Today at 06:23:32 PM »
Aloe vera also does undesirable things like adding organic waste to the tank.
Introductions and hello's / Re: Hello from Cardiff, Wales
« Last post by Sue on Today at 06:19:44 PM »
My rice fish are like your neons, and bettas are even worse  ;D
New Fishkeepers / Re: Water Conditioner Advice
« Last post by Helen on Today at 05:00:23 PM »
I wondered whether promoting slime coat is a clever way of marketing an unavoidable side effect? I would have thought increased slime coats were as a result of something that irritated the fishes' skin. So perhaps the chemicals used to de-chlorinate, irritate the fishes' skin. So the manufacturers add aloe Vera because people associate it with beneficial effects.

I should add that everything I have just said is entirely conjecture.
New Fishkeepers / Re: Water Conditioner Advice
« Last post by Hampalong on Today at 02:28:31 PM »
I don't get it. Why would converting ammonia to ammonium be impossible without providing the fish with extra slime? And why would they even need extra slime?

Also I don't get why fish would ever need extra slime (unless it was physically rubbed off). It's not like they lose slime in transit... Aloe vera is a plant from semi-desert regions which never naturally comes into contact with fish. I don't believe a fish ever needs the compound used from the plant, which is after all sap, and an irritant. I won't knowingly subject fish to it, and I'm pretty sure it's just a gimmick to increase sales. A very clever one at that. I was keeping fish just as successfully before Aloe vera. There was not a need for it...
Introductions and hello's / Re: Hello from Cardiff, Wales
« Last post by BT Bob on Today at 11:31:16 AM »
Back to fish....

I did a 40l water-change and gravel-clean yesterday, took the rocks and dogwood out and gave them a spruce-up too.

Tricky thing, using a syphon with 26 small fish in the tank. The Plecs and Corys got out of the way, but the bloody neons were a PITA - very inquisitive and a couple found their way into the tube  ;D

Took a few hours for the Corys to reappear from hiding, but they all seem happy enough this morning..
What's going on at Thinkfish / Re: You Tube Embedded Videos
« Last post by Robert on Today at 09:11:42 AM »
Just an update - the youtube options have been updated. However, urls of the type and variants (mobile) won't work, you'll have to use the full web paths of etc

You can also link to youtube searches via keyword too

General Fishkeeping advice / Re: Are neons in right tank?
« Last post by Sue on Today at 09:01:39 AM »
My Espei's rasboras hid in the back corner until I got floating plants, then as the plants covered more of the surface, the fish came out more and more.
I can't remember if you have floating plants?
General Fishkeeping advice / Re: Are neons in right tank?
« Last post by fcmf on Today at 08:19:00 AM »
Another factor to take into consideration, in my experience, is the water flow. I've been changing filters around recently and where the fish hang out is entirely dependent on water outflow, with some species less bothered by being buffeted around and others preferring to be in the area of least flow.
General Fishkeeping advice / Re: Are neons in right tank?
« Last post by Helen on Today at 07:38:49 AM »
I have found that shy species (my fiveband barbs) can take a while to settle - more than two weeks.

Where is your tank and what is the activity outside the tank like? The door to my kids' toy room is at the left end of my tank, so any new fish have to get used to the passing of small people. While they do this, they also hide at the back right corner.

Is the back right corner the most sheltered part of your tank?
New Fishkeepers / Re: Water Conditioner Advice
« Last post by fcmf on Today at 07:31:48 AM »
I found this interesting thread from a few years ago, so, unless the product has changed, it looks as though it contains aloe vera. A quick google search also brought this up . However, these may be out-of-date and none of these are the original sources - ie info directly from the manufacturer - so I'd urge a huge word of caution.

A quick reading around the other day brought me to the conclusion that it whatever it is that detoxifies the ammonia in turn requires the slime coat to be protected/promoted, and therefore that's why it's added, and in turn why it's impossible to get a product that detoxifies ammonia and doesn't contain anything to increase mucus production. Is my understanding correct?
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