Why Does My Platy Have A Red Belly?

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Offline Sue

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2014, 07:52:01 PM »
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I do know how hard it is to photograph fish. Have you seen any of my attempts in the gallery section  ;D

I think your platy is just that colour. It doesn't look like any disease I've come across.

Fingers crossed your levels stay that way.

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2014, 08:26:21 PM »
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Here's Kai..handsome little thing isn't he? The water/ornaments look a bit weird still as stained from the white spot meds but the levels are all still at nil so I'm leaving well alone until I do a water change on Sunday. Do you think I should do a big change or just 25%? I've left the charcoal filter out and am going to the pet shop on Saturdays so will buy some filter sponge as recommended.

Glad she's not pregnant - don't need maternity scares on top of everything else this week  :rotfl:

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2014, 11:52:07 PM »
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It may have escaped your notice, but there are people on this site, regular contributors, who have no respect for the serious nature of this web-site; Annoying sods O:-). It would be a nice change to have someone who is sane here.

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2014, 08:19:09 AM »
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Hey Susie, that's a good lookin' Betta you've got there.

I see Resa has lost non of her eloquence, she always has the most apposite and beautifully structured responce.  :)) :))

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2014, 10:47:28 AM »
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Glad she's not pregnant - don't need maternity scares on top of everything else this week  :rotfl:

Errrmmm, she will be if she's ever been in the same tank as a male. Female livebearers can store sperm for up to 6 months.


And Kai is a lovely betta  :D

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2014, 05:39:05 PM »
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Kai is gorgeous! I really want a betta hmmm

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2014, 04:10:51 PM »
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Thanks everybody. I agree, hHe's really is a gorgeous fish. He's so nosy and he follows your finger round the tank as if he's playing with you. He goes nose to nose with my little 6 year old granddaughter. If I had room for another tank I'd definitely have another one.

Sue - if my red belly does have babies, won't the other fish eat them?

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2014, 06:40:53 PM »
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Yes, they will.

It will save you from having a very overpopulated tank. A lot of people try to save every single fry, but by the time you've given the first few away you'll run out of recipients, and because they are so cheap from the wholesaler not many shops will take them off you even for free.
And don't forget that every female fry you save will start having lots of babies as soon as they are old enough.

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2014, 02:37:29 PM »
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Oh. Got it thanks Sue...let nature take it's course then.

I've just done another 50% water change in the biorb (ammonia rose to 25 again) and have noticed a red ulcer on the side of one of my platy's face. I don't think it's whitespot but he is 'flicking' and favoring the bottom of the tank.
 
I can't catch him to get him out (and even if I did I don't have a 'hospital tank'. Do I leave him in there and see what happens; try to get him out and put him in a 5 ltre bowl with whitespot treatment or treat the whole orb for whitespot?  It looks more like some kind of angry sore with a white centre than small granules like the others had.

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2014, 02:55:36 PM »
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With whitespot you have to treat the whole tank as there will be some parasites in stages 2 and 3 as well as stage 1 on the fish.

But whitespot doesn't usually have red ulcer-like lesions. There are other things that cause flicking - anything that is making the fish's skin itch, so everything from ammonia in the water to parasites/skin infections, to just having an itch. It's continual flicking that indicates something wrong, the odd once or twice is nothing to worry about.
As for the red ulcer, I don't know as it's not some thing my fish have had. Google suggest a bacterial or viral skin infection. The best treatment for bacterial infections are Myxazin by Waterlife and eSHa 2000. There is nothing to treat viruses. Since you don't have a quarantine tank, you'll need to leave the fish in the biorb and treat it there. The problem with a bowl is the lack of filter to keep the water clean. Ammonia build up can make a skin infection worse by irritating it.

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2014, 07:30:33 PM »
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Thanks Sue. The biorb has a filter in the middle and I put a new air stone in when I cleaned the tank today. I'll keep an eye on him, he looks ok now, quite lively in fact. I've been using aquarium salt and stress coat when I change the water each time so hopefully it will settle down. I'll also keep a close eye on the ammonia levels (have been testing every day so I can see the moment it starts to rise)

Do you think maybe there's too much aquarium salt in there now? I read that it doesn't evaporate but I only every put the correct amount in.

Also, I looked on Amazon for a heater for the orb but the reviews are all really poor - one poor guy had his fish fried in the small orb and they nearly all say the heater doesn't stick well in the bowl and can't cope with the 60 litre size I definitely wouldn't recommend a biorb if anybody asked me  - and certainly not to a newbie just starting out.

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2014, 10:40:23 AM »
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Aquarium salt is not needed in freshwater tanks full time, though it can be used to help with certain diseases. It is actually just plain old sodium chloride, table salt, in expensive packaging. It is another hang over from days gone by; they didn't know why it worked to keep their fish healthy but we now know that it mitigated the effect of nitrite. Back then they didn't have proper filters so there was ammonia and nitrite in their tanks.
Having said that, platies are able to tolerate some salt. But the best thing to do is stop adding it and water changes will slowly remove it. Slowly being the word; big changes in anything are bad for fish. This doesn't mean big water changes are necessarily bad as if they are done regularly the water in the tank tank doesn't have time to change much from tapwater, it's when water changes are infrequent or when chemicals are added (like salt) that makes tank water different from tapwater.

When you say you've been adding the correct dose of salt, how have you been adding it? The correct way is to add enough for the whole tank at the beginning (though adding a small amount over a few days rather than all at once is better) then at each water change add enough to replace the amount in the water you just took out. So a 10% water change, add 10% of the full dose.


I'm afraid I can't help on the heater question as I've never had a biorb.

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2014, 05:44:45 PM »
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Susie have you looked into other heaters for your biorb, ie ones not by the biorb company? (Whatever their name is)

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2014, 07:44:45 PM »
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Hi both. Thanks, will stop adding aquarium salt unless I get another outbreak of white spot or anything. Kai's tank too I suppose? (I did wonder why I was adding it when he's a freshwater fish really) Don't worry Sue, I was only adding the relevant amount to the amount of water I was addingsto the tank, not calculating 60 ltres worth each time.

Puffin - I hadn't looked into a different heater as everything else about the biorb is so flippin' exclusive (you can only use their substrate/filters/lights etc but I will ask on Saturday.

The fish all look fine tonight - except that the one who had the red 'spot' is being hassled by one of the gold platies. I wonder if she's a female and the red marking is something to do with her being ready to mate or something? He's sort of flicking up against her face and won't leave her alone. What with red belly still stalking the others and now this I guess I should have bought all females. (All of this is assumption because I still can't tell for sure what sex they all are)

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2014, 08:28:59 PM »
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Platies, and livebearers generally, are pretty easy to sex - just look at the anal fin (the last one on the underbelly before you reach the tail fin). If it's pointed then it's male, if it's a 'normal' fin, e.g. a bit like a fan, then it's female.

When the male is being amorous it will come up alongside the female and you'll probably see it, well, waggle the fin around to get it in the right place.

I bet Colin will be able to provide some pictures......

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2014, 08:32:08 PM »
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Just looked on eBay, typically for them... You can buy a Biorb heater kit for £14.99 plus p&p or £819.95 depending on which seller you choose!
But I'm sure I saw somewhere that you can just use any make, it certainly looks like a normal heater in the pictures. The biorb one is only 50W so a bit small for your 60l.

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2014, 08:52:52 PM »
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I bet Colin will be able to provide some pictures......

'ere ya go..... Platy naughty-bits:


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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2014, 08:54:57 PM »
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Et viola!

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2014, 09:04:51 PM »
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I bet Colin will be able to provide some pictures......

Oh my God :yikes: I dread to think what he'll find :o

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Re: Why does my platy have a red belly?
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2014, 09:07:53 PM »
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Phew!....that's a relief...I thought for a moment we were gonna get some sort of fish porn...or at the very least, platies with censored bits :rotfl:

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