Struggling With Plants And Algae

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2020, 05:51:33 PM »
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Wood and catappa leaves allegedly can reduce PH, albeit that's not been my experience.

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2020, 08:30:15 PM »
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Yeah read that but water is not so crystal clear.  Also the other option is RO water so not sure what's happening with mine.

Started to look at CO2 now haha

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2020, 12:12:31 PM »
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Aquasoil also helps reduce pH

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2020, 12:18:39 PM »
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Thanks @Matt

Would I be right in saying lowering KH would impact PH? Have I got that right?

Or is it that you can’t lower PH until you’ve lowered KH? Meaning the lowering of KH doesn’t directly impact the PH it just means when lowered you can then use say aqua soil and will see a drop?

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2020, 03:45:17 PM »
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This is one for @Sue to answer (cos she will ace the chemistry and I will struggle!!)

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2020, 12:04:39 PM »
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You can still have high pH with low KH. My KH is 4 dH and my pH is ~ 7.4 (it varies slightly according to the time of day).

KH buffers the pH. It is almost impossible to change the pH with high KH. But it is easy to change the pH with low KH. I don't mean by adding chemicals, this is always a bad idea, but things like driftwood, leaves etc produce tannins which are acidic and can lower pH - if KH is low.

Your KH is quite low. You could try driftwood etc, but I have to say that my wood has no impact on my pH. But wood that colours the water brown would have more impact - but you'd have to put up with the tank water being brown

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2020, 02:34:53 PM »
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Thanks @Sue

That makes perfect sense.  I'm ok with my PH at 8.2, it's high but I've no reason I can see to lower it.  I was only looking into it because the KC > PH and CO2 relationship table shows better CO2 if the PH is slightly lower.  Something like KH5 and pH 8.2 is 1ppm of CO2 but KH5 and PH7.8 has about 6ppm CO2 (all from memory).

I saw the advantage of dropping PH purely for the CO2 increase.  1ppm worried me haha

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2020, 02:41:39 PM »
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CO2 has not interested me as I have slow growing plants in my tanks (except for floating plants which can get it from the air) so I don't know much about that aspect of plant keeping.

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2020, 05:26:54 PM »
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The latest pics... plant growth seems ok but brown and green hair algae still persist.

https://flic.kr/p/2jiHNPA
https://flic.kr/p/2jiEPsY

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2020, 05:48:30 PM »
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Tank, fish and plants all looking great - well done!   :cheers:

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2020, 08:41:31 PM »
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Your tanks looks great.  :cheers:

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2020, 07:16:02 AM »
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Looking good! I take it the anubias rhizomes are above the substrate?

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Re: Struggling with plants and algae
« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2020, 08:31:43 AM »
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Looking good! I take it the anubias rhizomes are above the substrate?

Yeah they are slotted into spaces on the wood.

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
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