Author Topic: some questions (Read 65051 times) 211 replies

george · « **Reply #60 on:** October 06, 2013, 11:02:41 PM »

so you still think its the white spot that is causing this? even with the one of the rummys fins getting worse with rips in it and the black on its tail fading? didnt get the med as i wasnt sure if you still would think it was white spot whatever the answer is tomorrow i will be gettin the med then

Sue · « **Reply #61 on:** October 07, 2013, 08:43:47 AM »

No sorry. If they don't look like they are sprinkled in salt, don't use the whitespot med. If their fins are looking ragged you need a finrot med. The best two are eSHa 2000 and Myxazin by waterlife. But I don't think MA stocks those brands - or at least my local one doesn't.

george · « **Reply #62 on:** October 07, 2013, 01:51:54 PM »

Ok thanks just confusing as there does sem to be some dots on the fin but could just be fin rot will Phone up my local fs and see if they have any of the meds in you suggested if not am I best just gettin any fine it one like Interpet or any fin rot med or just order one online ? Only thing about ordering online is it could take days

Sue · « **Reply #63 on:** October 07, 2013, 04:34:26 PM »

That's the problem with on-line. Even if they post straight away it could take days in the post.
Any brand of finrot med should be OK, it's just that I prefer those two.

george · « **Reply #64 on:** October 07, 2013, 06:23:12 PM »

Thanks looks like tomorrow now

george · « **Reply #65 on:** October 08, 2013, 04:03:05 PM »

They had myxazine do got that don't think my tank is 200 litres but got 2 bottles just incase but I am not sure how to treat the tank I read instructions but still not sure any help please ? Doing my water change today so will do that first u will also measure tank so can find out how many litres it hold exactly? It also says use half does if I have sensitive species so I can keep snails in the tank too yes ? Thanks

george · « **Reply #66 on:** October 08, 2013, 05:15:04 PM »

Length is 39 height is 19 and width is 17

used the tank volume and the tank holds 206 litres

so i added up my length height and width inches which is 75 inches so then i found out what 75 inches is cm is and its 190 cm so i had to divide that by 1000 according to the medicine and it gives me 19 so i guess its 19ml? but i now have to half that because of snails and shrimp right? but is dividing by 1000 too much or ok?

Sue · « **Reply #67 on:** October 08, 2013, 07:05:04 PM »

By sensitive species they mean species of fish not snails. Fish that don't have scales like loaches, or fish like black ghost knife fish. Snails are sensitive to just about everything. I've killed a few snails by accident over the years.

I don't have a bottle of myxazin in the cupboard, I've just looked. I know it was almost empty last time I finished with it so I must have thrown the last bit away. But I have found an old thread of mine here

The measurements - is the height the height of the glass or from the top of the gravel to the top of the water? And you'll need to subtract about 20 litres to allow for the decor and plants. So it does leave you with about 180 litres of water. You will need 12 ml for each dose, and add a 12 ml dose very day for 5 days.

george · « **Reply #68 on:** October 08, 2013, 07:45:22 PM »

thanks sue, no it was from the bottom of the glass, so shall i just put 10ml in then ? if not i will just put the 12ml in i need to start getting it in asap really, i also have nothing to put the snails in so theres nothin i can do if they shrimp die i wont get anymore as there will always be a time to put meds in a tank, and if the snails die i may get more but not loads and next time have some prepared for them i hate putting fish down etc but if it needs to be done to save all of my tank and fish then theres no choice, could do with killing the very tiny snails anyway as they will just over run my tank

Sue · « **Reply #69 on:** October 08, 2013, 07:51:10 PM »

Yes use 10 ml. Do you have atub you could put the snails in for the length of treatment? You would need to do daily water changes, but they wouldn't be too hard with just a tub. You'd need a lid with air holes or they'd climb out.

george · « **Reply #70 on:** October 08, 2013, 07:54:56 PM »

i can use like a plastic clear lunch box or something, how much water? half way? i will try and put holdes in the lid before putting the water and them in i will just get my 2 brown and black zebra stripe nails and 2 of my assassins and leaves the others and tiny ones in there as i could do with getting rid of them anyway i will go do this now

george · « **Reply #71 on:** October 08, 2013, 08:03:10 PM »

my harlequin has one white tiny dot on its tail now the all had nothing but now 1 has, maybe its just a parasite? i just hope it is fin rot and the met gets rid of all this

i opened my cupboard under my tank and theres was a full bottle of interpet fin rot med LOL but this 1 i got today you said is better anyway so ....

i also saw my clear tonic medicine for the tank which i used awhile back it says use once a month and i think i will start doing that again because it keeps parasites and diseases at an acceptable level it says so would that be ok after the fin rot med is finished ?

george · « **Reply #72 on:** October 08, 2013, 09:10:27 PM »

why would some of the rummys turn on there side slighty not completely lay on there side but like tilt to the side a bit and spread all fins out like twitch? this was before i put the med in

now with the med in atleast 2 glow lights had acted like they are twitching as if they are trying to get something off their body and one of them darting around for a second or 2

Sue · « **Reply #73 on:** October 09, 2013, 09:34:32 AM »

A lunchbox is fine. I use old ice cream tubs for all sorts of things in the kitchen - if you family buys ice cream in tubs, keep the next empty one for you fish. The lids are easy to make holes in. And things like yogurt pots. I like those pots that individual cheesecakes come in, they are stronger than yogurt pots and a useful size.

Are the glowlights rubbing their bodies on things as well as twitching? That is usually a sign of parasiets on the skin such as whitespot.

Try the myxazin. If the fish do look like they are starting whitespot, stop using it, wait 24 hours then add a whitespot med.

george · « **Reply #74 on:** October 10, 2013, 12:36:07 AM »

well today not really looked at the tank but have put the medicine in, but my harlequins who were fine 1 of them had a tiny white dot on there tail which was on tuesday and today it was gone, so will that mean the medicine is working?

before i got the medicine the rummy with the worst anal fin would tilt itself and would spread all fins out, it also did it when the medicine in what would cause the fish to do that? also yes when the medicine went in for the first day on tuesday the glow light would dart around few a few seconds and try rub itsself against one of my plant pots and would like twitch if thats the right way to describe, will have a better look at the tank tomorrow, see if theres any dots etc,

the rams awhile back have also rubbed themselves against things now and then, once everythin has cleared up i am gonna start using that tonic once a month as it says its to keep diseases and parasites etc at an acceptable level and i think that should be good for the tank shouldnt it ?

would it be ok to use a medicine for white spot/parasites after this med i am using? just to be sure theres nothing in the tank and if anything is forming for it to kill it while its early? then after that get new fish etc?

Sue · « **Reply #75 on:** October 10, 2013, 08:24:26 AM »

All medications in the water affect the fish as well. It's just that they affect the disease more and kill it. It's the same with some human meds - ever know anyone who has had chemotherapy for example? Fish meds aren't that bad but the fish aren't happy about it being in their water. Reactions to the med are common when you first add it until they get used to it.

Unless the fish show obvious white spots by the time the myxazin is finished, don't add it. It'll keep in the cupboard. And if they do have spots, do a big water change with a good gravel clean then wait 24 hours before adding the whitespot med. The gravel clean gets rid of a lot of the bug cysts in the gravel so there are less of them to release baby bugs into the water.

george · « **Reply #76 on:** October 10, 2013, 03:35:41 PM »

just switched tank light on which i do around this time every day, i think it is white spot theres a white dot on the rummys dorsal fin thats the rummy with the worst fins, on another rummy theres 2 smaller dots on the dorsal fin/back of the rummy and one on the anal fin, i guess it is white spot, but would white spot make the fins look like fin rot? with the way they are looking scruffy? the 2 rummys i described with white spot are also doing the tilting thing,

absolute joke this, this is what i hate about keeping fish, anyway what would be the best white spot med to get? mainly ones you think will be stocked in a local fish shop or a local MA ? i know one is likely to be interpet white spot but is there better ones than that or is it good?

the water change, i usually do 3 buckets so how many buckets do i need to take out ? also i think today will be the day i scrub my wood and pure boiling water over the wood and take all plants and decor out and put the new wood in and place the plants and decor back in the tank, what was i can get to all gravel and clean it,

when i do my water changes i use a gravel cleaner and i see tiny white things moving around with the stones in the pump as its getting rid of the dirt from the gravel but i thought that was just little loose parts that have come off the stones and it could quite well be that but it also could be the disease too? also if i look very close at the tank in the water i can see tiny white things moving now i thought it would be bubbles but could it be parasites ?

thanks

george · « **Reply #77 on:** October 10, 2013, 04:21:25 PM »

scrubbed wood and put 1 boiling kettle over each wood so just ready now to take everything out the tank and clean gravel and put my new wood in

i have not put any medicine in today as it looks like white spot, and i put it in yesterday about 3/4pm and now its past 4pm now so thats been so its been 24 hours now, but i wont be sure which med to get so looks like i wont be able to get the medicine until tomorrow now

just waiting to know how many buckets to take out of the tank and put back in then i will do it

Sue · « **Reply #78 on:** October 10, 2013, 04:24:27 PM »

You won't see the whitespot cysts on the bottom of the tank without a microscope, the white bits you can see are probably white dust.

The interpet med is fine. Follow whatever the instructions say to the letter. There must be some med in the water when every last cyst splits open. Do a water change to get rid of some myxazin, then wait 24 hours before adding a whitespot med. These meds can react and do harm to the fish. Waterlife's website says myxazin degrades in 24 hours that's why you have to wait that long. Change something like a third of the water, I'm not sure how many buckets that would be. If you get a tape and measure about a third of the way down from the water surface to the top of the gravel and empty out water to that mark it'll be about right.

It could be there is something bothering the rummies. If fish are not happy they are more prone to disease. It could be they are fighting amongst themselves causing the raggy fins.
Haven't you put more fish in the tank recently? How are they looking? Whenever I've had whitespot it's been just after adding new fish.

george · « **Reply #79 on:** October 10, 2013, 04:37:31 PM »

yes 2 harlequins which were fine but the other day 1 of the new harlequins had a white dot on its tail and the next day it was gone, but that could of just been white spot/parasite attacking that fish but it has now gone, probably onto the rummys again, and the gouarmis everything seems seem with them, but the rummys tails have gotten worse from when i first noticed them well one of the rummys fins have got worse anyway,

the tails are even losing colour the black on the tail fin has faded loads on some of them, even my rams look a bit pale, isnt it possible to have more than 1 disease at a time?

i think 6 buckets will be about a third i think but will check as i get up to the 6th taken out, i did used to do 6 normally but was told thats too much i think that was by you a long time ago lol so i ended up just doing 3

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