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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2016, 09:43:16 AM »
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I already typed and posted this but it froze. Apologies if it posts twice!!!  We inherited the wood but it was ok in the tank for a few months before the tank went cloudy. I've attached pics to try and help. I really want to sort this out!!!  Any ideas? Xxx

It won't let me post pics from my camera roll. Wrong format

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2016, 10:00:59 AM »
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Fair enough, sounds like it's not tannins.
It might take a while for all the ideas and suggestions to make their way to the forum, but hang on in there.
What are your water parameters? Do you have hard or soft water? Have you tried to change the pH recently? Has anything else happened in the tank? The more information that you can give us, how ever irrelevant it may sound, the better.
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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2016, 10:09:55 AM »
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Wonder if it's the algae? The wood never had green on it before? I can send you pics to your email if you think it would help you seeing it?

Two things changed at the time of the cloudy water. We gained 6 additional fish, and started cleaning the pebbles for a water change rather than just scooping water out. Now looking back it might have also started getting sunny then as well. The sun shines straight on the tank for the first part of the day.

We eliminated the fact that we added fish, by rehoming 8 (including 2 large).

I just don't know what to do? I am so desperate for clear water so I can watch the fish again lol. Sad I know xxx

Should I lift the big bit of wood out and clean all the algae off???

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2016, 10:49:01 AM »
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White cloudy can also be algae, I learned recently!

If it is algae, one thing should get rid of it, but it will likely come back unless you also cure the cause. But at least you'll know if it is algae or something else.

The treatment doesn't look very nice I'm afraid. It is simply covering the entire tank with something that will block all light, turning the tank lights off and leaving the tank like that for 3 days. Don't even unwrap a corner to feed the fish; they will be fine without food for 3 days.
If it is an algae bloom - microscopic algae floating in the water - they should be gone when you remove the wrapping. If it hasn't gone, it's something else.

But even if it turns out to be something else it is worth finding a way to screen the sunlight from the tank, whether it is drawing the curtain or even using a free standing decorative screen. And if the cloudiness has gone when you unwrap the tank, you don't want it coming back, so you'll still need to stop sunlight shining on the tank.

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2016, 10:54:30 AM »
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So if i do this, should I take the big piece of wood out first? To clean the algae off that is stuck to it?  Also, should I do a water change before?  Check the filter isn't disgusting? Lol.

So I literally block all light for 3 whole days? And they will be ok without food? Wow that's impressive! Xxx

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2016, 11:05:11 AM »
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It is worth cleaning the wood and the tank, and check the filter first.

Yes, literally block all the light. Fish can go without food for 7 to 10 days. This is why it is better to just leave them rather than use one of those holiday blocks if your holiday lasts 7 to 10 days.

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2016, 11:06:43 AM »
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If the woods only been in the tank a few months it will still be leaching tanins into the water and that would explain the yellowing.

If fine filter wool hasn't sorted the cloudiness its not a particulate problem. Sue's suggestion will rule out an algae problem, I used this method for a week on my son's tank to get rid of  black hair algae.

I actually had cloudy milky water in my 200l, I think I hit a gas pocket when I was putting in some new plants and it triggered a bacteria bloom. I added the day 1 dose of Esha 2000 to the tank and the next day it was clear. Of course I then had to get the meds back out of the water which meant fiddling with the filter and it meant I'd subjected healthy fish to medication, so this would be a last resort.

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2016, 11:12:23 AM »
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The wood was in the tank before, just owned by someone else. It's an old piece.

The more I read, the more I'm thinking algae from the sunlight. I think I'll try what you said Sue.  Sorry for my stupid questions, but once I've got the tank ready, do I just tape a towel over all the sides?  Xxx

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2016, 11:14:51 AM »
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  Sorry for my stupid questions

They arent  ;)

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2016, 11:16:41 AM »
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I quite agree. The only stupid question is one you don't ask  ;D

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2016, 12:31:04 PM »
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More likely to get a stupid answer than a stupid question hehe  :P

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2016, 12:35:54 PM »
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 :yikes: Are you suggesting we give stupid answers on the forum  :yikes:




Mumble mumble, we all make mistakes from time to time, mumble........

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2016, 12:39:48 PM »
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 :rotfl:

Paddy what are you doing to our Sue!

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2016, 12:55:12 PM »
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Quick reply as work hectic today. NB. I haven't had time to go through all the posts in this thread, so Paddy may well be justified re a stupid answer, as I'm not sure my reply relates to the same as what you're experiencing.

I had white-coloured slime which kept appearing on my wood during its first 6-8 weeks in the tank. I scrubbed the wood every 2-3 days with a toothbrush bought specifically for fishkeeping purposes; eventually, the wood just stopped producing the slime.

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2016, 01:27:34 PM »
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:yikes: Are you suggesting we give stupid answers on the forum  :yikes:




Mumble mumble, we all make mistakes from time to time, mumble........

Of course not, I'd still be fumbling about on the Internet wondering what best to do with my tank without your help  :)

In my experience of life in general you always have a smart alec (like me) ready to dish out silly answers rather than offer helpful assistance. I haven't seen it on this forum so far.... Yet  :)

Plus I did wonder who would react to my above comment  :rotfl:

Sue.... Are you ok? No offence intended so apologies if it caused any x

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #75 on: March 16, 2016, 01:33:46 PM »
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I doubt she was offended ;)

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2016, 01:56:07 PM »
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No, I wasn't offended. Hence the overuse of  :yikes:.







Besides, I have been known to give some very silly answers  ;D

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #77 on: March 16, 2016, 02:00:15 PM »
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Well you are all extremely helpful to me!!!!

Don't think the wood is the problem with it being an old piece. Plus it's got green algae on it. I'm going to speak to the hubby tonight, sort the tank, then put it on lockdown for 3 days lol. Fingers crossed everyone!!! Xxx

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2016, 02:16:27 PM »
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The algae on the wood won't be the cause of an algae bloom as they are different species of algae (I think) but if the wood grows algae, conditions are right for algae of various species.

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Re: Newbie!!!
« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2016, 02:18:39 PM »
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Well like you say, it will rule it out if nothing else xxx

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