My Water Is Soft!

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Offline Cazzybaby

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My water is soft!
« on: April 26, 2014, 09:17:27 AM »
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I've just been in my water suppliers website and it says my area has soft water. Do I need to do something to alter it?

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Re: My water is soft!
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2014, 10:12:05 AM »
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That depends on what kind of fish you want. It is possible to alter hardness but if you want to keep fish that prefer soft water you don't need to. If you want fish that prefer hard water, then yes you will need to add something to make it harder.
The simplest way to 'harden' the water is by adding remineralisation salts. These are designed for people who use RO (reverse osmosis) water - that is water that has had all the dissolved minerals removed. The amount that is added depends on exactly how hard the tap water is to start with and exactly how hard you want it to be. The same amount of salts have to be added to the new water at every water water change to keep the hardness in the tank constant.

One thing you do need to check now is the carbonate hardness of the water, that is the KH. This is usually low if general hardness (that's the one on the water supplier's website) is low. You can get KH tested at a shop, I would do that as soon as possible as low KH can affect the cycle. If they tell you it is 3 degrees or less, or 55ppm or less (different units for the same thing) you need to do something. I'll tell you what it is once you know your KH  :D

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Re: My water is soft!
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2014, 05:23:23 PM »
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It says on the water website 20 mg/ litre calcium / 50mg/litre calcium carbonate and 3.5 clarke. I was hoping to keep some tetras and other similar little fish and a couple of dwarf frogs

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2014, 06:23:18 PM »
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I've tested the water and the ph is around 7.2, I don't know if that makes any difference?

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2014, 06:52:42 PM »
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That measurement is for GH (general hardness) not KH (cabonate hardness) even though they mention it terms of calcium carbonate. GH is what fish profiles use when they say a particular species needs hard or soft water and is a measure of divalent metal ions, which in the case of the water supply is almost all calcium with a bit of magnesium. GH is more important than pH; it is better to match fish to the hardness even if the pH is not ideal. I have softish alkaline water and I can keep soft acid loving fish better than hard alkaline loving fish.
KH is a measure of how stable the pH is likely to be. If there's not much KH, it gets used up quickly and the pH can fluctuate which is not good for the fish.
And for cycling KH needs to be reasonably high to encourage the bacteria to multiply. If the KH is very low it can be raised artificially for the duration of cycling though this method can't be used when there are fish in the tank.

The pH - have you tested the water straight from the tap or the water in the tank? Ideally, you need to check both, but for the tap water let it stand for 24 hours before testing. A lot of water companies add carbon dioxide and this lowers the pH. It gasses off when the water stands and that then gives the true pH of the tap water.

A lot of tetras are from the Amazon and its tributaries and need soft water. Your water is ideal for them.

But a word of caution about frogs. They are quite tricky to keep with fish. They are almost blind and find their food by smell - and by the time they've found it, the fish have eaten it all. I had two in with a betta and I had to go to great lengths to construct a feeding place that the frogs could get into but the betta couldn't.
Despite what you will read, frogs should not be fed exclusively on bloodworm. Their staple diet should be specialised frog food such as Zoo med frog and tadpole food.

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