Intro And My Fishy Project - Cora

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Offline ColinB

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #220 on: June 10, 2016, 11:53:45 AM »
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All flippancy aside (just for a few minutes ;D ), Richard, could you tell us the size of your tank and the number of inhabitants.... plus (please) a piccie so we can see the density of planting to get an idea of what we're all talking about. Thanks.

Now, back to our normal schedule. ;)

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« Reply #221 on: June 10, 2016, 12:19:53 PM »
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Colin,
I presently have 9 tanks, from 60 - 125 litres. They are all different, different plants, densities etc. Some are pretty well fully stocked, one has only 2 Panda cories, one has only 10 CPDs, and one has 2 Neons, 1 Cardinal and 1 Guppy, the last lot being the remains of the fish that I inherited with second hand tanks. Those with gravel over soil have grown much better plants than sand over soil, I regret using sand, which was for cories though there has actually been no difference in success with them whether sand or gravel was used.
I have posted photos before, but at present light levels are very low because of the almost complete coverage of Amazon Frogbit (and duckweed!) which makes it very difficult to get a decent piccy. When I next skim a load off the surface, I'll try again.
I'm planning to revamp my tanks in autumn when I have more time, get rid of the sand and replace with gravel, move some fish and restock with some new additions.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #222 on: June 10, 2016, 12:55:17 PM »
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Thanks, Richard.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #223 on: June 10, 2016, 01:28:45 PM »
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I think you'll find that it is a coalition of the females of the crab people and giant lizards the rule the world.
They just let the males think that they are in charge.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #224 on: June 10, 2016, 01:37:58 PM »
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I think you'll find that it is a coalition of the females of the crab people and giant lizards the rule the world.
They just let the males think that they are in charge.
Evil crabs and lizards eh? Not too dissimilar to the UK's most recent coalition government...

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #225 on: June 10, 2016, 01:40:47 PM »
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Yes, that's them. They've been on tv and everything. Very clever of them to disguise themselves as men (well, human males, but you know what I mean.)

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #226 on: June 10, 2016, 02:28:38 PM »
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I think you'll find that it is a coalition of the females of the crab people and giant lizards the rule the world.
They just let the males think that they are in charge.
Evil crabs and lizards eh? Not too dissimilar to the UK's most recent coalition government...
Yes, that's them. They've been on tv and everything. Very clever of them to disguise themselves as men (well, human males, but you know what I mean.)

What about Teresa May...... there's an evil crab if ever I saw one!

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #227 on: June 10, 2016, 02:59:13 PM »
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Perhaps just a rubbish disguise then.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #228 on: June 10, 2016, 06:11:58 PM »
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Update:

Ammonia: ~0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 5

I did a 50% water change yesterday evening to dilute the nitrites.

Assuming I haven't restarted the entire cycle (!) it looks like I could be on the verge of a breakthrough. I have dosed with ammonia solution again now and will take another reading tomorrow.

The bacteria in my EF have now had weeks to build up. If I assume I overdosed initially and the nitrites were simply too high, the current readings start to make sense. The alternative is that I still simply don't have enough nitrite eaters in which case my readings tomorrow will be ammonia: 0 and nitrite through the roof again. Let's see...

Anyway, let us give thanks to our Crab/Reptile overlords as we enjoy this Friday evening. May our claws never be shod.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #229 on: June 11, 2016, 10:02:26 AM »
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14 hours later. I couldn't resist testing.

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: >=2
Nitrate: >=20

which means in only 14 hours 3ml of ammonia solution was completely converted to nitrite.

As per the cycle process I'll leave the tank for at least another day and test again for nitrites.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #230 on: June 11, 2016, 01:26:15 PM »
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The nitrite eaters always lag behind the ammonia eaters as the ammonia eaters have to make nitrite before the nitrite eaters can get started. They seem to take longer to multiply as well once they do get started.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #231 on: June 12, 2016, 12:34:01 PM »
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Update:

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrates >=20

But the cycle hasn't finished because I haven't proven that the tank can complete a cycle in 24 hours. I have dosed again with ammonia now. I will test again tomorrow lunch time. If I get the same readings the cycle is complete!

I am off to a big aquatic centre now to buy hardscape material and get fishy prices.

Enjoy your Sunday all :)

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #232 on: June 12, 2016, 12:38:02 PM »
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What about Teresa May...... there's an evil crab if ever I saw one!

Oh Colin thank you. How I LOLED!!!  :rotfl:

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #233 on: June 12, 2016, 05:12:38 PM »
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The end of the cycle is in sight. Hooray.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #234 on: June 12, 2016, 05:31:36 PM »
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I've been curious, and possibly slightly obsessed... about the tank readings only a few hours after a dose. In just over 5 hours after adding 3ml of ammonia soln (which is my treatment dose)

ammonia: 1
nitrite: >=2
nitrates: ~40

Not drawing any conclusion from this - I was just curious what the water would be like after a few hours.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #235 on: June 12, 2016, 08:40:00 PM »
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If the 3ml Ammonia is the 5ppm dose for your tank, you are definitely accelerating towards a completed cycle I would say... Ammonia eaters - as you know - lead the nitrite eaters. But once the nitrite colonies breed up they accelerate in their multiplication... I had light a light-blue nitrite test tube before I knew it!

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #236 on: June 13, 2016, 09:07:02 AM »
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I think you're right, Paddy. Assuming I didn't get a false negative (!) with my second-to-last nitrite test, the end must be in sight.

I bought some "spider wood" for aquascaping yesterday - two beautiful pieces which give the tank height. Who knows, this time tomorrow I could be draining the tank and setting up the decore  ;D I just wish the fish I lost could also be moving in.  :fishy1: :'(

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #237 on: June 13, 2016, 09:09:08 AM »
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If the 3ml Ammonia is the 5ppm dose for your tank

For cycling the doses are

Full dose 3 ppm
Maintenance dose 1ppm


Fishless methods elsewhere are likely to be 5 ppm as that's the amount that used to be used, but it is now known that a properly stocked tank produces less than 3 ppm. Heavily overstocked tanks will, of course, make more than 3 ppm, but we shouldn't have heavily overstocked tanks except for Rift Lake cichlid tanks.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #238 on: June 13, 2016, 11:35:01 AM »
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spider wood?

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #239 on: June 13, 2016, 11:51:40 AM »
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spider wood?
Search google images for "spiderwood". You'll have seen it for sure, but perhaps under another name.

I think it's usually more interesting, and cheaper than bogwood - doesn't stain the water, but because it's light it tends to float and can take months to sink. I'm going to use rocks and lead weights to keep it in position in my tank. It also seems to be cleaner and has less of a hardscaping footprint on the aquarium.

I'll send a pic of my aquascape as soon as I've finished the cycle.

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