Intro And My Fishy Project - Cora

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Offline Littlefish

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #140 on: May 26, 2016, 07:56:52 PM »
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Oooh, very nice. I like the planting, it's looking really good.  8)

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #141 on: May 26, 2016, 08:09:39 PM »
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Oh, and oddly enough my pH is 7.8  :-\ That is unusual for my water.

I'll see if it drops tomorrow.

And cheers Littlefish :)

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #142 on: May 26, 2016, 10:34:41 PM »
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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #143 on: May 27, 2016, 12:05:30 AM »
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Very nice.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #144 on: May 27, 2016, 07:13:49 AM »
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Very nice.

The only thing, I can't quite make out if those pinky/purple plants are real or silk, if they're real they aren't aquatic plants and will likely die off quite quickly.

Lots of LFS sell certain species of plants that aren't true aquatic plants.
They look nice under water but they don't grow.

I took mine back to the LFS and they replaced them with aquatic plants.

Most of us on this forum have been caught out in the same way.  :)

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #145 on: May 27, 2016, 07:33:10 AM »
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oooo - that's nice, that is. I love the floaty bag filling thing - very smart. That's going to be a stunning tank.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #146 on: May 27, 2016, 09:52:25 AM »
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The only thing, I can't quite make out if those pinky/purple plants are real or silk, if they're real they aren't aquatic plants and will likely die off quite quickly.
It's Alternanthera Rosaefolia.

I bought it off eBay. I hope this link works: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281062537544?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=580178721736&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Apparently it's aquatic but requires iron and other dosing to grow properly and stay red. But of course, I could be wrong and been sold a dud  ;D

Hi Colin - I can't claim credit for the bag; I've seen it used by several aquascapers on YouTube. Many times I've made the mistake of filling quickly and blasting the gravel. Not this time. This indirect filling keeps everything calm.  It also allows a fine film of muck/sediment to form on the surface (instead of clouding the water) which you can skim off easily.

Off to buy more plants today!

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #147 on: May 27, 2016, 10:24:15 AM »
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Still a nifty idea for filling the tank.
Enjoy your plant shopping.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #148 on: May 27, 2016, 12:28:44 PM »
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It's Alternanthera Rosaefolia.

I bought it off eBay. I hope this link works: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281062537544?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=580178721736&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Apparently it's aquatic but requires iron and other dosing to grow properly and stay red. But of course, I could be wrong and been sold a dud  ;D

My mistake. Hopefully it'll do well.  :cheers:

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #149 on: May 28, 2016, 11:22:20 AM »
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It's Alternanthera Rosaefolia.
Apparently it's aquatic but requires iron and other dosing to grow properly and stay red. But of course, I could be wrong and been sold a dud  ;D 

I have a clump in my shrimpery as a focal point, it's a lovely plant when it's growing well.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #150 on: May 29, 2016, 11:02:07 AM »
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Merry Bank Holiday all :)

Update:

Ammonia: 0.5
Nitrite: 2.0 at least (I was shocked)
Nitrates: 0.0 (yup, as usual)

I've never seen the ammonia so low and the nitrites so high.

The aquascaping has finished - all plants have been installed. The tank looks really nice and I'm pleased with it.

I bought ADU iron-bottom multi nutrient sticks and planted them at strategic points throughout the substrate.

I'll send another pic when it gets dark.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #151 on: May 29, 2016, 11:35:05 AM »
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You are now at #6 in the method in the cycling section. So add the amount of ammonia that gives 3 ppm and test every 48 hours till you get zero ammonia then zero ammonia again 2 days later. You need two zeros, two days apart.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #152 on: May 29, 2016, 11:41:26 AM »
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Will do, cheers :)

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #153 on: May 30, 2016, 10:29:07 AM »
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Update (I know it's not been 48h :) )

Ammonia: 0.5
Nitrites: 2.0+ probably higher.

It seemed to me the ammonia wasn't as green as yesterday and the nitrite was a deeper purple.

Nitrates were probably not a zero, but somewhere between 0 and 5; hard to tell with such tiny volumes - it probably doesn't matter - and my numerous plants should eat the NH3 and NO3 quickly anyway.

Though if you believe Diana Walstad (with whom I've been impressed) plants' preferance for their N is:

NH3 > NO2 > NO3

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #154 on: May 30, 2016, 11:09:22 AM »
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We all (well I do) test before 48 hours at this point.  ;D
I'm quite impatient and have found that sitting in front of the tank and having a good stare at it doesn't help it to cycle any quicker.
I've also found that it doesn't encourage the plants that I put in the tank this morning to grow any quicker either.
Doesn't stop me from doing it though.  :)

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #155 on: May 30, 2016, 11:19:50 AM »
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- and my numerous plants should eat the NH3 and NO3 quickly anyway.

Umm I think you'd need a heck of a lot more plants before they made any significant impact on your water parameters. Have a look at Richard's tank, that's the level of planting you'd need.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #156 on: May 30, 2016, 01:15:58 PM »
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We all (well I do) test before 48 hours at this point.  ;D
I'm quite impatient and have found that sitting in front of the tank and having a good stare at it doesn't help it to cycle any quicker.
I've also found that it doesn't encourage the plants that I put in the tank this morning to grow any quicker either.
Doesn't stop me from doing it though.  :)
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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #157 on: May 31, 2016, 01:03:26 PM »
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Update:

Ammonia: < 0.5 (probably 0.25)
Nitrites: > 2.0
Nitrates: didn't bother.

Dosed with Ammonia (<= 4.0ml). Such a tiny amount, yet the tank water smelled of ammonia only a few minutes later. As foul as ammonia is, it's redolent of high school chemistry, a subject I used to love. Hated PE, hated RE, but couldn't wait for Chemistry and Physics to come around.

Had an algae bloom yesterday. The obvious causes are always: too much nutrient or too much light (or both). It could be high nutrients (ADA iron-bottom sticks) but I do have lots of hungry plants. I think it's just too much light. I'm now draping big black towels over the tank so I can control the light. For now, I'm thinking of allowing just 5-6 hours a day in the evening.

Edited to add: I'm also concerned that I have insufficient flow in my tank. Low flow is preferable for the plants and fish I have (and will have) but I'm reminded of what Sue said earlier in this thread about the low effective rates of cannister filters when full with media. My APS is stated at 1400 l/H but it's probably half that, at best. Even with the spray bar underwater there is almost no discernible flow. The water and tank's contents just look static and I'm not sure that nutrients and fresh water will be flowing around the whole tank.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #158 on: May 31, 2016, 02:02:10 PM »
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If there is almost no water flow, I would check the filter. You have done some 'messing' with the tank of late and could well have churned up some debris which could be clogging the filter. If you find the media covered with stuff, you need to clean it. Take some water from the tank and very gently swoosh any ceramic media in the water then squeeze any sponges. You want to get rid of the goo without dislodging any bacteria. Newly forming bacterial colonies are quite delicate.
I don't know what exactly is inside your filter but there might be something that looks a bit like pillow stuffing. That is filter floss or filter wool and it won't wash properly without going holey and shapeless. As bacteria don't colonise this well, it can be replaced without doing too much harm. For future reference, it is much cheaper to buy filter wool off a roll and cut it to shape using a branded pad as a template. You can get sheets of it from shops selling pond equipment or on-line.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #159 on: May 31, 2016, 02:47:38 PM »
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Hi Sue

If I can remember off the top of my head, the filter contains, in descending order:

crushed carbonate rock in a fine filter bag, on top of a plastic grid, then:

The first compartment:

two large bags of ceramic media side by side, which sit on top of:
filter wool, which sits on a plastic grid.

The second compartment:

two bags of plastic "bio balls", on top of:
filter wool, which sits on a plastic grid.

The third compartment:
(contained two large bags of activated carbon, but I removed these)
Another two bags of ceramic media (this is the stuff lifted from my sister's tank - heavily colonised one would hope)

I have a meter length of filter floss/wool that I'll use to replace the existing stuff as-and-when.

I was thinking of removing the spray bar and having a single outlet in the corner. I'm sure this would provide more force.

But I will clean the filter anyway and see if the flow improves.

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