Intro And My Fishy Project - Cora

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Offline Sue

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2016, 09:50:02 AM »
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The main criterion for gravel is that it is smooth if you have loaches or cories which spend time rootling round the substrate looking for food.

Some black substrates are dyed and can look a bit tacky; sort of waxy. Have a good hunt round all your local shops.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2016, 12:44:24 PM »
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I've yet to see a black substrate that looks anything but ugly and artificial. To keep your fish happy, I think giving them plants to shelter under, and not having lights that are too bright, are more important. Floating plants are a big help, I find all of my fish enjoy the cover they give.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2016, 01:33:54 PM »
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Perhaps something not black just dark then. I have to cover the compost with something, after all. But I take your feedback on board; the last thing I want is tacky or artificial. I want the aquarium to feel very natural; no castles or gimmicks etc. Not to criticise anyone who does! It depends on the look you want. I want observers to look at my tank and feel as if they're peering underwater in a stream or riverbed.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2016, 02:01:39 PM »
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Ok, so I'm thinking of larger groups of small fish, all of which prefer soft water (or don't care) - all of which are peaceful and either shoal or work well in large groups.

Cherry Barb x 6
Pearl Gourami x 7
Penguin Tetra x 6
Bolivian Ram (or Butterfly Ram) x 6
Pearl Danio x 6
Cardinal Tetra x 10
Golden Barb x 5

Obviously it will be some weeks before the tank is even cycled but I think I would start with the more hardy barbs as initial stock. Anyway, that's a long way off!

Any feedback on my choices is welcome.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2016, 02:11:19 PM »
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Pearl Gourami, Rams and Cardinals all like their temps at 24°C min, while Golden Barbs are 24°C max.

However; having said that then I don't run a heater at all in my tank and it varies between 18° and 22º. My 5-band Barbs, Cherry Barbs and Lemon Tetras seem perfectly happy.

Interesting article on tank temps here.

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Panda Cory (7) - Honey Gourami (3) - Ember Tetra (9) - Lemon Tetra (4) - Cherry Barb (1) - Otocinclus (2) -
Note: The user may not necessarily own these fish, these are tanks that they may be building or researching for stocking purposes


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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2016, 02:12:03 PM »
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Go for bolivian rams. The other type, rams (Mikrogeophagus ramirezi in all it's colour varieties) needs warmer water than golden barbs and cherry barbs would like.



Rams (both species) are 'earth eaters', that is they take mouthfulls of substrate and sift it for food. I once had a pair of bolivian rams with small gravel on the bottom of the tank. The female got a piece of gravel stuck in her throat. Despite my attempts to remove it, she died shortly afterwards. Her co-ordination went; she would attempt to pick up food and miss. It took her several goes to get every mouthful. The male pined away after she died. I changed all my tanks from gravel to sand after this happened.
If you want these fish, or even apistogrammas, get either gravel that is too big to fit in their mouths, or sand.

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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2016, 02:13:43 PM »
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....and once you've seen Panda Cories then you're bound to want them, and they like sand sifting, too. ;D

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Panda Cory (7) - Honey Gourami (3) - Ember Tetra (9) - Lemon Tetra (4) - Cherry Barb (1) - Otocinclus (2) -
Note: The user may not necessarily own these fish, these are tanks that they may be building or researching for stocking purposes


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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2016, 02:24:28 PM »
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Pearl Gourami, Rams and Cardinals all like their temps at 24°C min, while Golden Barbs are 24°C max.
I suppose I could swap the Golden Barbs then. I'd tend to keep a warmer tank, avg +25. cheers!

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2016, 02:26:08 PM »
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Go for bolivian rams. The other type, rams (Mikrogeophagus ramirezi in all it's colour varieties) needs warmer water than golden barbs and cherry barbs would like.
Will do. They are prettier anyway! :p

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If you want these fish, or even apistogrammas, get either gravel that is too big to fit in their mouths, or sand.
For some reason I picked up a negative opinion on sand. How would sand do on top of the compost substrate?

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2016, 02:27:43 PM »
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Golden Barbs are rather boisterous fish, not sure if they would go well with Cardinals. Pearl gouramis are pretty big fish. Though they are generally peaceful and shy, males can become territorial and fight, like all labyrinth fishes. 7 seems rather a lot. Personally, I always reckon you should have fish of similar size in one tank, not mix some which are much bigger than others. Pearl danios are OK (I have them) but if starting again I might go for something like Glowlight danios. 

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2016, 02:28:37 PM »
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My observation is that plants do much better in gravel than sand, even with soil underneath.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2016, 02:34:13 PM »
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ColinB - I was thinking of four pgymy corys!

RichardW - yeah, larger gravel would probably be a good compromise for me then.

I'll swap out the Golden Barbs.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2016, 02:38:46 PM »
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There are a lot of accounts on here of people finding Pygmy cories to be rather delicate and tending to die for no apparent reason. I'd have something bigger, Pandas are certainly engaging creatures.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2016, 02:45:01 PM »
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I agree with Richard re pygmy cories, especially if they would be for the bigger tank. I have them in my 50 litre, 60 cm long tank - well, I have 2 left, the rest have died. As have all but 2 of a shoal of habrosus cories. Bigger cories would also fare better with bolivian rams (or indeed any other south American dwarf cichlid)

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2016, 03:00:21 PM »
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Ok - Pandas it is :)

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2016, 03:39:13 PM »
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A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Panda Cory (7) - Honey Gourami (3) - Ember Tetra (9) - Lemon Tetra (4) - Cherry Barb (1) - Otocinclus (2) -
Note: The user may not necessarily own these fish, these are tanks that they may be building or researching for stocking purposes


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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2016, 03:53:41 PM »
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Although I might have to keep an eye on the temperature with Pandas. 25 is probably the minimum my tank would average (apologies for that statistical word salad).

I've researched a variety of plants, all of which require low CO2 and low light. There is so much from which to choose! All these shades of green against a black background should be quite beautiful.

If anyone is interested this is my plant shopping list:

Background:
Vallisneria spiralis (long straight and grasslike for background)
Camboma Caroliniana
Amazon Sword
Elodea Densa

Mid:
Limnophilia Sessisfloro (light green and interesting shape)
Anubias Heterophylla (a bit more expensive for a plant but great big leaves and a medium height should make a nice central feature)

Mid/Fore:
Lindernia Rotundifolia
Guppy grass (this stuff is so versatile and attractive, I could place it anywhere)

Fore:
Moss balls
Java moss (will try to attached to small bits of wood and rock)

Misc:
Dwarf Lettuce - floating (recommended here, nice shade and an interesting addition)

As you can see I've left the foreground quite bare.

I have fertiliser (shut up, spell-check, yes yes I know the traditional Oxford English recommends a 'Z' but that has since become America and what's left of this great language I shall retain with every 'S'!), and carbon dioxide boost in tablets and liquid. This is for the cycling stage when there will be no fish and I want to encourage plant growth at the very start. Also, the extra carbon should help the filter bacteria - if I have understood Sue correctly.

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2016, 04:00:50 PM »
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See this about Cory Catfish.

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Panda Cory (7) - Honey Gourami (3) - Ember Tetra (9) - Lemon Tetra (4) - Cherry Barb (1) - Otocinclus (2) -
Note: The user may not necessarily own these fish, these are tanks that they may be building or researching for stocking purposes


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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2016, 04:15:12 PM »
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Damn you, Colin!!! Now I want more Corys!!

Updated: ok the latest list:

Cherry Barb x 6
Penguin Tetra x 6
Cardinal Tetra x 10
Bolivian Ram x 6
Glowlight Danio x 10
Panda Cory x 6
Zebra Danio x 6
Slender Harlequin x 10
1 x Pakistani loach

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Re: Intro and my fishy project
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2016, 05:26:20 PM »
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Pakistani loaches, Botia almorhae (aka B. lohachata) are shoaling fish and need to be kept in a group. Most of the botine loaches are social. They also get quite big at around 15 cm (6 inches) so a group of them would knock a big hole in your stocking allowance.
Dwarf chain loaches, Ambastaia sidthimunki (aka Botia sidthimunki, Yasuhikotakia sidthimunki)* are smaller but would knock a big hole in your wallet.


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