New Tank, And What Goes In It

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Re: New tank, and what goes in it
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2016, 10:25:23 AM »
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an oto cat.

Please don't get just one oto. They are shoaling fish which need company of their own kind. If you want an algae eater, get a nerite snail. They are fine as just one as eat more algae than otos.

What do you mean by a small group of barbs - I hope you mean at least 6 of them.


As for GH, your water company (or the testing company they use) has much better testing equipment that we can get for home use. My son used to work as an analyst for Severn Trent Laboratories and was highly amused by our testing kits.

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Re: New tank, and what goes in it
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2016, 11:13:29 AM »
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What's a silent cycle?

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Re: New tank, and what goes in it
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2016, 11:18:07 AM »
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A silent cycle is when plants alone are used to cycle the tank - it can be done but, from the limited reading I've done on it, think it takes about 9 months. I'm assuming/hoping that SoraStar meant that she'd be doing a combination of the more accurate method of using ammonia in conjunction with the plants method which might reduce the fishless cycle length a little eg from 6 weeks to 5 weeks, for example.

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Re: New tank, and what goes in it
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2016, 11:20:20 AM »
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A silent cycle is where you plant the tank heavily, wait till you are sure the plants are all growing well, then add fish a few at a time and check for ammonia and nitrite on a daily basis. In theory, if there are enough plants and they are growing well they use all the ammonia made by the fish and you should never see any ammonia or nitrite in the water. The reason for adding fish slowly (like for a fish-in cycle) is to make sure the plants are doing the job without adding so many fish at once that you find yourself doing multiple daily water changes to stop ammonia and nitrite build up.

The danger is that some people do this with insufficient plant numbers or their plants die when there are fish in the tank and they end up doing a fish-in cycle. You need to be sure of your plant growing skills before attempting a silent cycle.


fcmf beat me to it, but I'll still post this anyway  ;D

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Re: New tank, and what goes in it
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2016, 12:40:28 PM »
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The fishless cycle seems a heck of a lot easier and less work.

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Re: New tank, and what goes in it
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2016, 11:17:01 PM »
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Ok well as of now the tank was been fully cycled, and some fish are added. ATM its just a baby clown pleco and a dwarf gourami. soon to add a small school of male guppies. In about a month or two when i'm 100% sure the tank is ready i'll add a ram to finish off.

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Guppy (male) (4) - Salt and Pepper Catfish (4) - Black Widow Tetra (6) - Boeseman's Rainbowfish (5) - Assassin Snail (1) -
Note: The user may not necessarily own these fish, these are tanks that they may be building or researching for stocking purposes


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Re: New tank, and what goes in it
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2016, 08:58:44 AM »
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Hi Sora, good to hear an update.

Less than ten days seems an almost unprecedented length of time for a tank - or, more accurately, the filter) to fully cycle. What test kit have you been using and what were your daily readings? Did you add ammonia or fish food to simulate the fish's waste and get the nitrogen cycle going, or did you just leave the tank as it was with the plants? The reason I'm asking is that occasionally some people have thought that by leaving the tank sitting was "cycling" it and, because the ammonia/nitrate/nitrite readings all looked to be at appropriate levels, they assumed it was cycled.

As it seems more likely that you're still in the process of actually undergoing the cycle, through a silent/fish-in cycle, you'll need to keep a very close eye on your ammonia/nitrate/nitrite readings daily, monitoring them, and doing frequent water changes to ensure that ammonia and nitrite are kept down at 0, and nitrate as close to 20ppm as possible.

We can and will be happy to advise more appropriately (eg on when would be the best stage to add the small school of male guppies), once we know what process you've gone through over the past ten days or so.

Hope the fish you've got so far are settling in well.

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Re: New tank, and what goes in it
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2016, 02:06:27 PM »
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for the last 3 days the readings were 0.25,0,20 then 0,0,10 then 0,0,10 (ammonia nitrite nitrate) using the API master test kit. just added 4 male guppies today.

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Guppy (male) (4) - Salt and Pepper Catfish (4) - Black Widow Tetra (6) - Boeseman's Rainbowfish (5) - Assassin Snail (1) -
Note: The user may not necessarily own these fish, these are tanks that they may be building or researching for stocking purposes


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Re: New tank, and what goes in it
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2016, 02:49:45 PM »
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Those results look fine.

It is good practice to monitor the levels for a few days every time you add new fish. That way you catch it early if the filter can't cope.

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