Algae Eaters For A 2 Foot Long 70 Litre

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Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« on: October 29, 2015, 07:12:46 PM »
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Hello, my tank is almost 2 months old and I am in desperate need of an algae eater. The community creator doesn't tell how good the fish are at eating the algae (if that makes sense)

I have assassin snails so that means I can't have other types of snails

Tank measurements 61 (long), 31 (wide), 45.5 (tall)

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Re: Algae Eaters 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2015, 07:20:28 PM »
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And with the fish you have I wouldn't recommend shrimps either.

Most of the fish that eat algae grow to big for your tank.
The smallest plec (bristlenoses) need a longer tank.
Otocinclus don't eat that much algae, preferring just one type. And you'd need a shoal of those.

I usually recommend nerite snails, but as you say that's not an option with assassins.



Do you have a lot of algae? Since there is a shortage of suitable algae eaters it could be worth looking at why if you do have a lot.
Do you have live plants in the tank? If you don't, the lights could be too bright/on too long. This could apply if you do have live plants.
And with live plants, for them to out-compete with algae you need to get the light-nutrient-CO2 level balance right.

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2015, 07:26:24 PM »
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I have some live plants and plastic plants and the light is on 6 hours a day because the tank has some natural light from a small window behind it. The algae is mainly a light brown and is on the bog wood and plastic plants. I also have a some hair algae on the edge of my live plants.

I was thinking of Pygmy Cories or is my tank too small?

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2015, 07:36:43 PM »
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Cories aren't algae eaters, they are omnivores. I have some pygmies and habrosus (salt & pepper in the profiles on here) and I've never seen them touch algae. They need to be fed small sinking pellets with meat (fish) content.
But if you like them as fish, they will fit in your tank no problem. Mine are in a 60 x 30cm tank. My only concern would be if your bolivian rams are a male and female and they decide to spawn. Cories never learn to stay out of other fish's territory and can be picked on by spawning cichlids.

If your tank gets sunlight that, in addition to tank lights, could be the source of your problem.
Brown algae is usually diatoms, and this is often the result of ammonia in the water.  Do you test for ammonia and nitrite? The good news is that it is easily washed off decor. The green algae on the plant tips is trickier. I've learned to live with it.

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2015, 07:49:17 PM »
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My nitrite was 0.0 this morning and ammonia was at 0.6.

I always thought that cories were algae eaters because of the way they look to be cleaning the bottom. However I now presume that they are foraging for good. I learn something new about fish everyday.

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2015, 07:55:14 PM »
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If you can get them you should look out for Stiphodon, another forum member started a subject a while ago and I was fortunate enough to get three.

They eat all kinds of algae, voraciously, even the Blue-Green (which isn't algae but bacteria)

http://www.thinkfish.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,1917.0.html

http://www.seriouslyfish.com/search/Stiphodon


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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 09:00:01 PM »
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I should have remembered about those from your thread.

Make sure you look at the smaller species as the bigger ones need a tank longer than 60cm.



If your ammonia was 0.6, you may need to do something about it - meaning water changes to get it down. But first, look at this calculator. Ammonia exists in 2 forms in water - toxic ammonia and much less toxic ammonium. But our test kits test for them both combined so we can't tell from the test results if we have too much of the toxic form. That's what the calculator is for. Enter your ammonia reading, temp and pH on the left, and set salinity to 0. After you've clicked calculate, you want the bottom figure on the right hand side, the one labelled NH3 concentration. If it is below 0.02 that's fine. If it is above 0.02 you need to do a water change to get it below 0.02. The volume of water change depends on just how far above 0.02 it is.

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2015, 09:42:11 PM »
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hi guys...
how easy are these to get hold of ?

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2015, 10:24:49 PM »
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Sounds like you're being given some good suggestions here.

Incidentally, I may have posted in the past about my pygmy cories (RIP) eating algae, so, if you did happen to read about that, that actually only lasted for their first few months when they did a brilliant job of cleaning up the algae from the silk plants and devouring algae wafers - but then suddenly stopped. It sounds as though this isn't usual cory behaviour, though, and, for a variety of reasons, I'd suggest you go with these other suggestions.

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2015, 10:42:34 PM »
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I agree with Extreme_One, Stiphodon are exceptional algae eaters for the smaller tank. Since putting mine in I have had to actively encourage algal growth in order to keep it fed! My lights are now on 12 hours a day! They are often marketed by Maindenhead Aquatics as Indonesian Rock Gobies and cost anything from £4 to around £20. The males are usually brightly coloured, whilst the females are relatively drab in appearance. I also have 3 nerites and a few remaining shrimp in my tank and I now barely have any algae at all.

On the note about assassin snails and nerites, I have both in my tank without problem. You just need to ensure you buy large nerites and not the small horned varieties. I got a great deal on ebay by searching 'neritina' where I got 5 for £6 delivered! At that price you may as well have a go in my opinion...

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2015, 11:31:46 PM »
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I just remembered, stiphodon require a high oxygen content. Don't keep them in an overstocked or tank with little surface agitation or small filter/low turnover as they won't do well. They ideally like a river type setup with a turnover of at least 10x volume per hour and pristine water.

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2015, 08:18:13 AM »
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Also, they can climb up glass so you need a well fitting hood!

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2015, 09:41:40 AM »
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On the note about assassin snails and nerites, I have both in my tank without problem. You just need to ensure you buy large nerites and not the small horned varieties.

That's good to know.

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2015, 11:00:50 PM »
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:-( kind of a shame,i don't have the right set up,just the algae.

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2015, 11:18:15 PM »
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I haven't got a river setup, but a huge filter with a turnover of at least 10x an hour. The tank is around 60% stocked and my Stiphodon does fine. I think turnover is more important than flow if that makes sense!

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2015, 08:35:01 AM »
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I haven't got a river set up either.

I have Stiphodon Ornatus and they live in slow-flowing streams in nature, so I don't need a flow in my tank.

Good quality, well oxygenated water, along with a plentiful food source seems to be the key to keeping them happy.

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2015, 10:04:16 AM »
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i don't suppose any of you guys have got any pictures of
them in your aquariums that you would share do you ? :fishy1:

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2015, 10:15:15 AM »
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would a powerful airpump and air stone oxygenate the water enough?

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2015, 02:30:18 PM »
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i don't suppose any of you guys have got any pictures of
them in your aquariums that you would share do you ?
- See more at: http://www.thinkfish.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,2157.msg20503/topicseen.html#new

It might also help to google videos of fish you like, to see how they behave/move around and the different set-ups they're in - lots of people have put videos of their fish on YouTube.

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Re: Algae Eaters for a 2 foot long 70 litre
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2015, 03:35:51 PM »
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Good quality, well oxygenated water, along with a plentiful food source seems to be the key to keeping them happy.


Hit the nail on the head there.

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