Shrimps & Snails Eating Dead/dying Fish?

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Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« on: April 06, 2016, 06:32:33 PM »
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The main problem I have with nerites is that I only usually see them when they are climbing up the front glass, which is not exactly their most attractive side.

Starting a new thread with a quote from another - hope this works.

The other issue that puts me off keeping snails and shrimps is that I've read that they often make short work of a dying/dead fish - is this true in people's experiences? [When my pets/fish die, I tend to have quite a ceremonial send-off process for them :-[ which wouldn't be possible if this were true, so would be grateful to know of people's experiences before deciding whether or not to even consider them as a potential addition to the tank.]

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2016, 06:36:52 PM »
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They do ahem...clean up. So if a fish died in the night they would get to work.

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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2016, 07:00:26 PM »
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In my tanks shrimps do a better job of 'recycling' than nerite snails - which don't seem to touch anything including algae wafers, courgette, blanched lettuce etc. If a fish dies in the 50 litre I usually notice it because of the shrimps standing on top of each other to get a share.

Other snails might be different. I have never had assassin snails so I don't know if they would eat a dead fish or not.

Fish will also eat dead fish. It's not just shrimps or snails.

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2016, 07:12:00 PM »
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Hmmm - thanks. These sorts of situations, including fish eating dead fish, give me the heebie-jeebies. Only one of the cories died in the main tank but thankfully was intact when I found him; the others died in the QT but, of course, it's not always possible to control for that (ie ensure that they're in there), especially with unforeseen deaths.

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2016, 07:25:10 PM »
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I have certainly witnessed both shrimps and fish "cleaning up" in tanks at the local Pets at Home.
I know it's all part of nature, but I found it slightly disturbing as well.

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2016, 08:20:51 PM »
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Most disturbing thing I've seen was when I went into a LFS, I told the guy one of his discus had died, he hooked it out, said waste not want not and chucked it in the piranha tank  :yikes: I NEVER went back in there again, it seemed hugely unprofessional to me

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2016, 08:51:20 PM »
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WTF?!?  :yikes:
That's awful.  :sick:
Even if he was going to do that it shouldn't have been done in front of customers.
I don't blame you not going back there.

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2016, 09:33:23 PM »
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Couldn't find the above acronym in the "New Fishkeepers" sticky. Anyone ???

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2016, 09:49:20 PM »
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It usually means 'What the f***'

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2016, 10:06:34 PM »
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What The Flipping-heck!  ;)

The story about the dead Discus is horrible!

I actually like the thought that, if a fish does die in my tank, then the Assassin Snails would clean-up.

In  truth, as I've lost two Otos, I'm fairly sure that's happened already in my tank. Better that the Assassins clean up than the body is left to decompose hidden away where I can't see it.

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2016, 10:19:04 PM »
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Well, goodness me............honestly? ............no, it can't be........."flipping- heck" doesn't fit ...........?

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2016, 11:17:22 PM »
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Well, goodness me............honestly? ............no, it can't be.........
PS I only wish I could post Smileys !!

Hehehehehe :) I wish we could fix your smiley problem.

The normal circle of life going on in my tank is fine, thats why I have snails and shrimps, the piranha thang was a bit horrible though. I also have issues with endlers who start snacking before something stops breathing (hence no more endlers)

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2016, 06:53:22 AM »
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My tanks are so dense with plants and wood that if  a fish dies it is likely to be somewhere hidden and I may not notice, when you have 10 or more small identical fish in a shoal it can be difficult to even count how many there are as they mill around. So it's better to have something clean up the body than have it decay and produce ammonia. That's nature, it's not pretty.
Nerite snails do appear to be almost entirely algae eaters but most others will eat meat if they can get it.

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2016, 09:13:42 AM »
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Hi Skittler,
Apologies for not explaining, but "WTF" stands for "What the fudge-diggity", preferably said in the accent of an old American southern belle. Obviously I would never, ever even consider useing an acronym that would include a hint of a rude word.  ::)  ;)

In fact (in southern belle accent) my word (snaps fan open) I am full of shame (hides behind fan) at the thought that I may have offended anyone (flutters fan) please forgive me (closes fan and clutches it to heaving bosom) I throw myself on your mercy as I beg for your forgiveness.

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Well, that's me done  ;D

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2016, 09:42:40 AM »
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It's obviously the way I was brung up  ;D

WTF stands for What The any word you want beginning with F that means the phrase goes with this smiley  :yikes:

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2016, 10:02:54 AM »
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No Sue, you're right and we woz all brung up the same way.  ;)

Discus in a piranha tank in front of customers, accompanied with such a dismissive attitude, absolutely deserves dropping the f-bomb.

My abilities with combining expletives and random words is known amongst friends, and I was recently sent a picture with the caption "I do not spew profanities, I enunciate them clearly, like a f**king lady", which was quickly turned into a cross stitch panel to go with some of my others.
I am only lucky that when something really surprises me, like being dive bombed by collared doves and squirrels in the garden whilst filling the seed and nut bowl, my go to phrase is "good lord". Very handy considering the neighbours have 2 young kids.
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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2016, 10:11:49 AM »
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Putting my moderators hat on, I will say that as far as I'm concerned it is fine using acronyms as someone too innocent to know what it means can't be offended. It is using the actual word that is not allowed.



Discus in a piranha tank in front of customers, accompanied with such a dismissive attitude, absolutely deserves dropping the f-bomb.

I agree.

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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2016, 10:16:25 AM »
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Nerite snails do appear to be almost entirely algae eaters but most others will eat meat if they can get it.

That's why I like nerites  :)

Since I've had the oldest two for 41/2 years, I must have a fair amount of algae in my tank  ;D

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Re: Shrimps & snails eating dead/dying fish?
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2016, 10:33:21 AM »
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Well Ladies,

I've only just stopped laughing from your recent posts. Hilarious. Having started my working life as a student apprentice in an engineering dept., this young, naïve, good Christian boy, soon realised that he needed to speak a different language, in order not to have the urine extracted mercilessly. So, I am qualified.

I am afraid that last night I took myself off to the Unicorn across the road, for their excellent Wednesday carvery (£5.95), and spent the "savings" on another (very) large glass of shiraz.......and when I'm under the affluence of incohol the fingers are out of control. Thinking about it..........that's how I ended up rushing to the altar as well! (Emoticon of one smiley beating the brains out of another!)

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PS Sue, just seen your last posts. Could we have a photo your "Moderator's Hat" please?

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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2016, 10:37:21 AM »
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Ah well, it's the hat equivalent of the emperor's clothes. A virtual hat, very difficult to photograph  ;D

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