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If you are thinking about setting up a discus tank have a look at the rare aquatics web site. They import wild discus if thats a way your thinking of going. .

I have just got six wild discus and went with a planted set up. look forward to seeing what you choose and the set up you go with.

Wow that is good prices, i paid a fair bit more than that.

Yei had a look on there very nice site and some stunning fish, my problem is the tank breds just dont do it for me. 10 would look stunning problem is how do you choose which to rehome when they all become stunning. I agree i think 6 is a good number, funnily enough the number i have, im gona watch mine grow and see what happens i have enough space for my six unless they pair. Im sure you will there definetly not as hard to keep as people say or do. Although apparently wilds are hardier than tank breds.
 A lot of people go over the top with them i heard of one guy doing a 90%water change every 3 days! I still firmly believe that its better to keep water chemistry stable than doing massive fresh water changes, im doing 20% every week and they seen to be doing fine and my nitrates are about 15.

Very interested to see a bare tank set up saw a couple on you tube and a couple with just a bit of wood. Looking forward to seeing it come together sounds realy interesting. Sounds like a lot of work although i do like the look of painted tanks am keen to see how that comes out. Are you going down the ro water route?

I've read about discus keepers changing 50% a day when they want their fish to breed. The reason that such large water changes don't alter the water chemistry is that the water doesn't chance to change much from tapwater composition before the next water change.

I wonder if that is why so many experienced Discus keepers swear by changing big amounts and often, other than the growth aspect. Once you start you can't really stop. Otherwise it would be like doing a fish in cycle every time you forget a water change. The Ammonia and Nitrite bacteria must surely start to die off with such large water changes so often as they have nothing to feed on.

I was talking to my lfs today (while dropping off more Krib fry (it seems myself and 2 other Krib owners have {flooded} the local market)). She raised a good point when i told her I could buy red/blue turqs for £10-£15 instead of her £25.

She asked how they had been kept and how the generations before them had been kept. Pointing out that if the breeder had been anal about water changes, the fry I brought would probably have the need to be given the same treatment or risk illness/death. It was an angle I hadn't thought of before and one that made me wonder. Is that how the "myth" of the need for large water changes is propagated?

If a breeder believes in large and often water changes, you buy his fish but don't carry it on which leads to illness/death, aren't you more likely to do the large and often next time even when a breeder who doesn't believe in them tells you that is isn't needed?

I know a lot of owners say large and often changes for keeping RO for breeding. I'm now thinking about leaving an inch of thin sand at the bottom, that way I can keep my Horse Faced Loach (which I think is cool).