Think Fish Keepers Daily News. [2016-2019]

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1880 on: October 29, 2019, 07:32:35 PM »
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With the popularity of bettas it wouldnt surprise me if their genetics has got weaker recently. Mine is still eating ok but she is swimming more and more 'vertical' ie. head up.

Any ideas?

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« Reply #1881 on: October 31, 2019, 03:51:46 PM »
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It does seem, reading from everyone's experiences in recent years, that bettas are indeed getting weaker.

As for the increasingly vertical swimming, I can't advise for bettas but I have noticed other fish altering their swimming position and find that it does catch up with them in time. I had a go-to, graded list for goldfish with swimbladder difficulties - chopped pea and live/frozen food to induce any intestinal clearout, salt (if the previous didn't work after a week or so), anti-bacterial medication (if the previous didn't work after a week or so) - but this doesn't seem to work or is necessarily appropriate for my tropicals.

I've had another fatality this afternoon of a neon green rasbora - that leaves me with only one of the 12 I had.  It wasn't entirely unexpected - his spine was ever-so-slightly curved at the outset but became increasingly so over time (perhaps due to enjoying swimming into the current), and I'd been noticing just a day or two how much the back half of his spine was downward-pointing and how thin he had become, plus the difficulties he had securing food and almost toppling over himself in an effort to retrieve it.  Like the couple of NGRs who died in Sept, he was fine earlier in the day but was missing during my 4th headcount/roll-call of the day and was found lifeless behind a stone. His curved spine is particularly obvious now that he's out of the water.  The final NGR looks perfectly healthy, as did the first of the two which died in Sept, but I have an inkling she'll also experience a sudden demise before the year is out.




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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1882 on: November 01, 2019, 04:40:11 AM »
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Thanks @fcmf im going to give frozen food a second try today and if no improcement, start salt dosing tomorrow. Ive got a dosage rate of 1/2 teaspoon per 4 litres... does that sound right??

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1883 on: November 01, 2019, 06:37:27 PM »
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Sorry to hear that you've had another fatality @fcmf   :(

I hope Greta is ok @Matt

I have found that my eyesight isn't what it used to be, even with glasses, so the peppered cory fry are quite difficult to see. They are from the eggs I found in the river tank last weekend, which I moved into a smaller tank with an internal filter. A few fatalities were found in the filter sponge, but the live ones were collected from the waste bucket and returned to the tank. I'll probably end up taking these to the shop as I don't want to encourage in-breeding in the tank.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1884 on: November 01, 2019, 07:00:18 PM »
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I think Gretta has an internal blockage as her belly does appear swollen (thought it did yesterday but I wasn't sure). Thanks for the good news Donna in amongst all the bad news recently!

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1885 on: November 01, 2019, 07:29:26 PM »
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@Matt - ah, if there's bloating (an internal blockage), then you'd be better doing a salt bath with Epsom salt (magnesium sulphate) as opposed to aquarium salt (sodium chloride). Sue has a good explanation on here somewhere about what each is used for.

Thanks, @Littlefish.  Your teeny-weeny peppered cory fry are just gorgeous - congratulations!  :cheers:  [With you not around to keep them entertained / in check, they're clearly taking advantage of that situation and entertaining themselves in other ways.  ;)]

Re eyesight, one thing I've definitely noticed with having been short-sighted but also becoming long-sighted is that looking at fish in a LFS is impossible - neither set of glasses, nor plain eyesight, seems adequate. At least with everything else, there is a suitable option (either set of glasses or no glasses at all) but there needs to be a bespoke set of glasses specifically for looking at fish in a LFS!


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« Reply #1886 on: November 01, 2019, 07:42:14 PM »
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The basic difference is that sodium chloride is a mild antiseptic while magnesium sulphate (that should be sulfate nowadays but the older spelling is too ingrained) is used for drawing fluid from tissues.
While sodium chloride can be added to a tank, magnesium sulphate should always be used as a bath in a separate container.



I found varifocals great for several years, until my cataracts got bad and my prescription changed every couple of months. Though not everyone can use varifocals. My husband and my mother both hated them, but my aunt and I thought they were the best thing since sliced bread.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1887 on: November 01, 2019, 07:44:10 PM »
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I have a new betta  :) He's tiny, white with pink fins, and very energetic, making photos tricky. He also killed a shrimp today. I think I need to remove them to the relative safety of the main tank.

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« Reply #1888 on: November 01, 2019, 08:10:38 PM »
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That's more good new Sue.  :cheers: (Not for the shrimp admittedly... Gretta is a shrimp killer too...)

I'll get some magnesium sulphate tomorrow if she is no better, thanks.

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« Reply #1889 on: November 01, 2019, 08:16:39 PM »
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The dose rate is 1 teaspoon per gallon (or 1 x 5 ml spoonful per 3.75 litres) of tank water. Leave the fish in for up to 30 minutes twice a day, but remove the fish immediately if it shows any signs of stress.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1890 on: November 01, 2019, 10:09:04 PM »
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Congratulations on your new betta @Sue
I hope he stops darting around and eating shrimp long enough for you to get a pic for us.  :)

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1891 on: November 01, 2019, 10:38:26 PM »
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What an evening. I must do about ten headcounts a day. One of the new cardinals, present at the 18:30 headcount, was missing at 20:10. I opened and shut the lid - no result - so, at this stage, I was looking for a body. I used a pair of plant tongs and gave each plant a prod, to no avail. Next, I used it to give each rock a prod, again to no avail. The leaves were lifted in turn, the wood too. Still no apparition. Out came every piece of decor, piece by piece. Mr FCMF checked the floor - no sign of anything. Given previous experiences, the filter is attached to the tank walls with ultra-strong magnets, and filter wool also tucked in. By this point, I began to wonder if cannibalism had taken place. Only when the final piece - a large plant pot which I keep some spare filter media in and which is kept under the filter was removed did a very washed-out but living cardinal appear.  ::) I wonder if this is the same cardinal who hid inside a leaf during the first water change of the QT, resulting in similar feelings of :yikes:, or whether he'd somehow got wedged in by accident. I must have aged by about 5 years in the space of a couple of hours!

Anyway, what a lovely antidote to all that to read of @Sue's lovely news. Looking forward to seeing a photo of the new betta soon!  :cheers:

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1892 on: November 02, 2019, 04:27:32 AM »
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The dose rate is 1 teaspoon per gallon (or 1 x 5 ml spoonful per 3.75 litres) of tank water. Leave the fish in for up to 30 minutes twice a day, but remove the fish immediately if it shows any signs of stress.
Thanks @Sue

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1893 on: November 02, 2019, 12:37:37 PM »
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Dear nerite snails,

Seriously, what do you use to attach your eggs to surfaces? I couldn't get them off a piece of wood with a tooth brush or a nail brish.  ::)
Even the shrimp and bristlenose don't seem to be able to shift the eggs.
Eventually I gave up and decided that spotty wood was perfectly acceptable.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1894 on: November 02, 2019, 02:26:43 PM »
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Ah - I discovered something last week in my "fish accoutrements" box which worked, not on wood but on the glass. I think it was sold as an algae scraper but it's perfect for this job - it's a little like a razor blade but with a plastic bit to hold it from. I'll take a photo and attached it here later.  ;D I've seen my cardinals attempt to eat the nerite eggs but they don't succeed in dislodging them.



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« Reply #1895 on: November 02, 2019, 03:02:22 PM »
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Even those plastic plant labels stuck in the pots at the garden centre will get nerite eggs off glass. Plastic decor needs a bit more work, but wood is impossible as they are stuck so hard the wood underneath the egg comes away before the egg comes off the wood. I have given up trying and have put up with spotty wood for years  ;D

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« Reply #1896 on: November 02, 2019, 03:29:16 PM »
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I've got a scraper for the glass, and I thought a stiff brush would deal with the wood, but no.
Spotty wood it is then.  ;D

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« Reply #1897 on: November 03, 2019, 07:15:55 PM »
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Apparently the panda cories and assassin snail have all been "busy" while I've been away.
I've only found a couple of panda fry so far, and am having to go through the waste buckets to double check.  ;D

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1898 on: November 19, 2019, 06:55:09 PM »
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I have a new betta  :) He's tiny, white with pink fins, and very energetic, making photos tricky. He also killed a shrimp today. I think I need to remove them to the relative safety of the main tank.

How is your Betta @Sue ? Mine is still suffering with swim bladder... in the end I decided to get a swim bladder treatment rather than the Epsom salts... possibly a mistake. She's still eating well though I've not been feeding much, just done the cooked shelled chopped up peas thing to see if that helps, but I was under the impression she had passed whatever was causing the problem so if this doesn't work I'm planning on picking up those salts this Friday (and going to a new fish shop on the way back from work...  good excuse and all that).  I get the impression Betta's are quite susceptible to swim bladder so I'm not sure if genetics has a part to play here... anyway... after any good suggestions if anything else people think might be worth trying?

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« Reply #1899 on: November 19, 2019, 08:08:41 PM »
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You don't feed anything like dried bloodworms straight from the pack do you? I know bettas have trouble with these as they soak up water inside the fish and swell up causing problems for the fish.

Daphnia (live or defrosted frozen) is another good 'treatment' for constipation.



My new betta has calmed down a bit and seems to ignoring the shrimps for now. He did split his tail on something, so I'm waiting till it's completely healed before attempting a photo. He must have caught it on something as it was just a straight tear down between the rays. These tears do heal completely and there's just a tiny bit to go.

 


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