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« Reply #1600 on: October 11, 2018, 09:31:11 PM »
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Cockatoo apistos (Apistogramma cacatuoides) is a harem breeder, and one of the more commonly available species. There are several colour forms of the male with all females being yellow with black markings. For example, one shop quite near to me has its stock on-line and is currently selling double red, orange and gold. The photos on http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/apistogramma-cacatuoides/ include a few different varieties.
Another easily available harem breeder is A. agassizii, and again there are various colour strains.

Have a look round see if you can find a few different colour varieties in shops to help you decide.


Apistos are cave breeders so you'll need one cave for each female plus one extra to give them some choice. Keep them at the other end of the tank from where the rams choose, but have at least 30cm between caves.

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« Reply #1601 on: October 11, 2018, 09:40:32 PM »
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I liked the looks of the Agassizii in the LFS so ill go with them, ill try and get some caves too, Thanks Sue!

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« Reply #1602 on: October 11, 2018, 11:11:38 PM »
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I have found that the cheapest (but by no means the easiest) way to buy caves is to buy a coconut from the supermarket. You will also need a decent hacksaw.  :yikes: 2 caves cost me 80p. It took quite a long time before the caves were useable, though.

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« Reply #1603 on: October 12, 2018, 06:45:21 AM »
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Have a look at the different colour forms of agassizi. Here is a flame red for example... the female is a gorgeous orange.

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« Reply #1604 on: October 12, 2018, 09:36:32 AM »
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Stunning Matt, definitely having some. I was also thinking maybe adding some synodintis nigreventis but worried if they will eat the pencil fish or emperor tetras. I'm still undecided on the species of pencil fish so ideas are welcome :)

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« Reply #1605 on: October 12, 2018, 09:48:53 AM »
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Last night I was in a rush to turn my laptop off, and I've looked again at your fish list.

One species of cory is fine, but be aware that if either rams or apistos breed the cories could take a bit of beating. They have no concept of territory and will never learn to stay away from eggs or fry. The cichlids could well attack them for coming too close.

Emperor tetras are quite big and active. I had some for a while, and in the end traded them for pencilfish. Emperors could stress out the cichlids which are sedate fish. Are there any smaller, more sedate mid water fish that you like?

Pencilfish and hatchets share the same region of the tank. If the coral red pencilfish are Nannostomus mortenthaleri, they are very expensive! The similar but less colourful N. marginatus is cheaper. Both should be OK with hatchets, though the top of the water could look quite crowded.
The most easily available pencilfish is the golden or Beckford's pencilfish https://www.thinkfish.co.uk/fish/golden-pencilfish.html, though I have read comments that they do not get on with any other fish that live at the water surface such as hatchets.


Emperors are probably too big for a synodontis to eat but the smaller pencilfish and hatchets might make a snack. They are more confident kept in groups of 3 or 4.

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« Reply #1606 on: October 12, 2018, 06:42:19 PM »
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Not a weekly update but warrants an update of its own, will probably recover this in my other thread on wednesday.
After discovering one of my cherries was finally berried! I drained the tank and moved it to its new location to make room for the new 240L. As i refilled it, water was leaking! I rushed to get my shut down 55L restarted in case of a crack. Turns out i had overfilled the 37L  :vcross:
I was planning to upgrade my shrimpery to the 55L to give the shrimps more space to hide, the embers more swimming room and to eventually get some more dwarf corydoras species. I have now set up my 55L and transferred the shrimp with a shot glass to not damage them, or any potential eggs in a net. I have 2 berried cherry shrimp and a berried tiger shrimp.
The latter shocked me since I only have a femlae tiger and no male. However, i did pick up a mystery shrimp which i thought was a male cherry, turns out it was a male red tiger!!!

My year of trying to breed shrimp is paying off! I just need a source of Cholla wood for the shrimp and shrimplets to hide in. Any suggestions?

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« Reply #1607 on: October 13, 2018, 06:18:54 AM »
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Oh dear, I can imagine the panic when you saw the water leaking... :vcross:

Your two species of chimp can interbreed @apache6467
There are some useful tables online showing which species can interbreed and which can't. It's a bit if a lottery what you will end up with as adult shrimp too...

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« Reply #1608 on: October 13, 2018, 08:04:46 AM »
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@Matt  they cannot, as Tiger Shrimp are Caridina cantonensis and RCS are neocaridina davidi, two different genus. Ive done my reasearch! ;D

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« Reply #1609 on: October 13, 2018, 08:19:39 AM »
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Quite right... I misread the chart!  :isay:

Congrats on the little ones in that case!a  :cheers:

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« Reply #1610 on: October 13, 2018, 08:32:39 AM »
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Thanks Matt!

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« Reply #1611 on: October 13, 2018, 09:46:12 AM »
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Congratulations @apache6467   :cheers:

I'm looking forward to seeing lots of pictures as things progress.  :)

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« Reply #1612 on: October 13, 2018, 07:59:00 PM »
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Having a bit of a snail crisis in my shrimp tank, as i forgot to clean the substrate as i was panicking due to a false alarm!
 what do you reccommend, since assassins arnt doing a good job

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« Reply #1613 on: October 13, 2018, 10:19:52 PM »
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Addressing the root cause will bring their numbers down... less waste food/dead plant matter etc in the tank.

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« Reply #1614 on: October 13, 2018, 10:49:59 PM »
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Im just letting my shrimp feed off the bio film on the sponge filter and snail poo, and feeding one crushed up flake for the embers.

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« Reply #1615 on: October 15, 2018, 04:01:30 PM »
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I have mentioned in the past that peacock gudgeons/gobies like to spawn in tight spaces. This afternoon I noticed that the big male was in his cave - a length of plastic pipe, internal diameter 1.5 cm, weighted down with a piece of slate. When he went on a swim round, I had a good look, and yes the top and sides of the cave are covered with eggs.

I took a couple of photos. The first is a blurry pic of the male in question. He's the biggest fish in the tank. The second is him back inside the cave. How did a female get in there as well  ???

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« Reply #1616 on: October 15, 2018, 06:30:24 PM »
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Congratulations on the eggs @Sue   :cheers:

It must have been a very tight squeeze in that pipe, but where there's will there's a way. They were obviously quite determined to get the business done.  ;D

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« Reply #1617 on: October 15, 2018, 06:35:53 PM »
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I don't expect anything to come out of this spawning as the fry will be eaten very quickly.

With peacock gudgeons it's the male who guards the eggs. I had these fish years ago in a smaller tank where I could watch them better. The eggs are attached to the inside of the cave with a sort of neck. The male keeps the eggs clean by sucking each egg in turn, until one day as he sucks the fry emerges. He then spits the fry outside the cave to fend for itself where, in a community tank, it promptly gets eaten.

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« Reply #1618 on: October 16, 2018, 09:12:43 AM »
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I have a natural tendency to accumulate junk. A lot of my spare fish stuff was in 2 lidded boxes approx 50 x 30 x 20 cm in the greenhouse which is more of a glass shed than a greenhouse. Yesterday evening I wanted something out of the bottom box. The top one fell apart as I lifted it off, and the bottom one fell apart as I lifted it forwards from under the shelf. So I have just been sorting out the contents. I have thrown about half of the stuff away, the rest has gone into one of the two 25 litre tanks on top of the shelf.
Why did I keep old plastic plants that were falling apart, several bits and pieces that I'd tried as decor but didn't look right, countless plastic tubs, pieces of drainpipe (how many do I need anyway, surely just 2 is enough).
I probably need to sort again through what I've kept - and then there are the old lidless kitchen waste bins and handleless buckets full of stuff as well.

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« Reply #1619 on: October 16, 2018, 09:53:50 AM »
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Theres nothing like a good clear out when your in the mood  :cheers:

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« Reply #1620 on: October 19, 2018, 07:47:11 PM »
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Why did I keep old plastic plants that were falling apart,
As someone who doesn't like throwing things out as I always think there may be, and indeed often is, a future use for them, I think plastic plants have a tendency to distintegrate and look awful when they've not actually been in the tank. When they're in the tank water, they're fine, but, after a period of being in box, they tend to dry out to such an extent that they look unsightly. Having said that, the ones which haven't disintegrated entirely in that time tend to resurrect themselves when put back in again.

I've noticed my x-rays (almost 4) and harlequins (3.5) have begun to show signs of ageing recently.
The one x-ray who tends not to get interlocked in battle with the others, each of whom have eye injuries, has shown a slight struggle to maintain buoyancy this week - not floating as such but having to wade vigorously to maintain being upright.
The 4 large harlequins could scarcely be distinguished from one another; however, in the past few weeks, one has become very thin with a flat / almost concave underside which makes his face/eyes look disproportionately large, while another developed a gash which evolved into a round and deep ulcer, almost identical to the one experienced by one of the female x-rays.
In view of these, plus the ongoing raggedly tails of a couple of the neon green rasboras, I dosed some Easylife Voogle this week. That resulted in the same as happened to the female x-ray tetra in that the ulcer developed a sprout of fungus out of it. That fell off and the wound/ulcer seems to be healing, for now at least.
Water quality all normal, so it must just be signs of ageing.



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« Reply #1621 on: October 24, 2018, 02:31:33 PM »
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The fish were about to be given a treat of brine shrimp for lunch to celebrate 4 years' tropical fishkeeping / arrival of the x-ray tetras. However, I noticed that one (neon green rasbora) fish had vanished since the morning count. Everything was removed from the tank, and out she floated from behind the filter once it was removed as a final resort. She had actually decomposed quite markedly since just 5 hours beforehand when enjoying breakfast as usual.

Really rather annoyed about this as I'd purchased watersafe magnets which were doing a fantastic job at keeping the filter tight against the glass and preventing the snails from pushing their way in there, so how on earth this fish ended up behind the filter when there seemed to be no gap anywhere nearly large enough to allow this to happen, I cannot fathom!
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« Reply #1622 on: October 24, 2018, 04:52:13 PM »
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Sorry to hear about your rasbora.
I can't imagine how she managed to get behind the filter.

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« Reply #1623 on: October 26, 2018, 08:43:33 AM »
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Sorry to hear this... I suppose it might have got pulled into that space after it passed??... still not good news  :(

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« Reply #1624 on: October 26, 2018, 07:04:55 PM »
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Still struggling to fathom how the fish ended up there but can only assume it was through being chased by another and/or a possible fright reaction - I've noticed that, in the mornings, the fish's shadows look extra large against that filter and my own shadow too. In fact, it's the same in the evening - my orange nerite fell off the glass when my shadow passed the tank yesterday evening and this isn't the first time this self-defence mechanism has occurred.

Anyway:
* I have now squeezed filter wool along the edges of the filter which will hopefully prevent a recurrence;
* after some deliberation over this, I have decided to top up the shoal of neon greens and will do so tomorrow, so fingers crossed...



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« Reply #1625 on: October 27, 2018, 02:39:17 PM »
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In LFS. Argh- the temptation... 4 replacement microdevarios (sensible choice) or habrosus cories which I've been wanting for ages (but NB overstocking). Aaargh. A male betta is also very seriously tempting me... I'm going to end up "doing a Littlefish" and buying a new tank despite nowhere to put it...

Edited to add: Have had to come home, empty-handed, for a cold showerplay on the CC. Too much temptation in the LFS!

So, stocking-wise, to add: 6 habrosus = 104%; 4 microdevarios = 95%. Why do the heart and the head cause so much conflict in fishkeeping..?!

Meanwhile, due to my indecision, the filter media transferred into the QT filter is going to go dormant.


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« Reply #1626 on: October 27, 2018, 04:51:17 PM »
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The microdevario are the best option. You already have some so getting more will make them 'happier'. All dwarf cories need at least 10, and that would be pushing it.
You'd need another tank for a betta as well  ;)

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« Reply #1627 on: October 27, 2018, 05:37:55 PM »
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Thanks, Sue. My existing fish are messing with my mind, so I'm currently "feeding" fish food to the QT to keep the filter bacteria alive, while I decide whether or not to add the additional microdevarios. What you say makes perfect sense in theory although we do know that I have rather quirky fish that are a law unto themselves.

The harlequins have been shoaled up on one side of the tank for the past month or two. I've been wondering if it's because the juvenile microdevarios are too active by comparison and taking up most of the tank, and in the harlies' space at the top, so the harlies are seeking refuge and peace to the side and the x-rays at the bottom. Typical today that, possibly because we're now down to 4 very active fish, everyone's decided to come out a bit more and intermingle. Either that, or they've sussed from me moving equipment back and forth, that I'm setting up the QT in the spare room and they're trying to demonstrate that there's no need for any more fish as they're perfectly fine as they are!  ::)


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« Reply #1628 on: October 27, 2018, 06:24:13 PM »
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Goby decided to bury himself in the sand at the front of the tank tonight!

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« Reply #1629 on: October 27, 2018, 06:35:53 PM »
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How cute is that little head peeking up! He looks like he's "swimming" through it.

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« Reply #1630 on: October 27, 2018, 07:50:48 PM »
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I know I shouldn't have gobies (water flow not really high enough for them) but they are so adorable I can't help myself. Your photo is a good example of this adorableness  ;D

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« Reply #1631 on: October 28, 2018, 04:58:25 PM »
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A couple of videos today:

Main tank - https://#youtu.be/LA0FHwt6d6c [remove # to watch] - fish now intermingling, much to my delight, rather than the active green ones taking over and resulting in everyone else at the sidelines.
Aware of a couple of problems ie cloudy-eyed tetra as previously mentioned (due to frequent sparring with shoal-mates) and skinny harlequin (attempting to feed through a pipette containing a mix of fishfood, crushed garlic and tank water but with little success).

QT - https://#youtu.be/XYTooqwlEc0 [remove # to watch] - some new additions, arrived today and settling in nicely for their month's quarantine.



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« Reply #1632 on: October 29, 2018, 02:23:47 PM »
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I've been keeping a very close eye on the newbies. All was well until mid-morning, when I suddenly only noticed 3. All eventualities have been covered with cable holes blocked with filter wool, etc, so checked the water surface, substrate, plants, etc, to no avail - then decided worth checking behind the filter even although it's absolutely tiny and the suction cups so flat against the tank wall that the gap created by them is no more than 1-2 mm. With no wallpaper on the side walls of the tank, it was easy to see - one of the microdevarios had wedged itself in there since I'd last looked in the tank not long beforehand. Thankfully, I managed to dislodge it without any adverse consequences. If this can happen with such a tiny filter, then it's no wonder one got lodged last week in the main tank near the larger suction cups which create a wider gap of maybe double that at 3-4mm. Argh - why do they like forcing themselves into small gaps?! I reckon I'm going to be up almost constantly during the night, checking the situation by torchlight...

All I can say is that, if this doesn't work out this time round, I think I'll have to stick to larger sized fish from now on where such scenarios are less likely to occur.



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« Reply #1633 on: October 29, 2018, 08:19:31 PM »
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Could you bring the filter away from the glass a bit so the gap is a bit bigger and they can't get wedged in?

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« Reply #1634 on: October 29, 2018, 09:30:42 PM »
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Your fish are looking very perky @fcmf   :)

I think Matt may have a good point about the filter.

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« Reply #1635 on: October 30, 2018, 07:33:59 PM »
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Thanks; I think I have 3 girls and 1 boy - same as the 4 microdevarios in the main tank. I can't stop doting on them.

I've tried experimenting with filter wool but am struggling to expand the gap - any other suggestions for keeping the filter attached to the wall but perhaps by some other means besides suction cups or magnets? I have given everyone a stern talking-to, though, and pleased to report that no such antics took place overnight or today so far.

Updated to add: Having had another episode of a fish lodging itself behind the QT filter yesterday evening, I made a concerted attempt to avoid this happening again. Filter wool was too malleable to do the trick but I found some sturdier foam and have managed to create a barrier. So far, so good - but I expect the filter will ultimately dislodge from the wall; however, better that than a fatality.


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« Reply #1636 on: November 01, 2018, 05:22:10 PM »
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These new microdevarios have a lovely nature - all active but very harmonious so far, with no one character having taken control and sent others scattering. Tempting to keep them in the QT and have it set up as a permanent feature for well-behaved fish, potentially moving a few of similar nature across from the main tank. Not quite sure this suggestion of the QT as a permanent installation would go down very well with Mr FCMF, though.

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« Reply #1637 on: November 01, 2018, 07:18:26 PM »
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Great to hear that your fish are doing well. Your microdevarios are very cute.  ;D

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« Reply #1638 on: November 02, 2018, 05:53:50 PM »
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Hello!
News update
I have now got several more debaui cats for the 240, some peppered corydoras, golden and red pencilfish and some double red apistos! 11 pearl danios complete the setup!

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« Reply #1639 on: November 02, 2018, 08:33:06 PM »
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Sounds great - please post some pics when everyone has settled in.  :)

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« Reply #1640 on: November 08, 2018, 08:51:39 PM »
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Have been to the local MA twice this week, and to the one near Aquarium Gardens (seemed rude not to have a look in while I was there), and I've managed not to buy any fish. I may need to mark this event on a calendar.  ;D

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« Reply #1641 on: November 14, 2018, 09:49:23 PM »
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Veggie kebab in the river tank. The baby sweetcorn is more popular than expected, though they've also given the carrots a go.

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« Reply #1642 on: November 15, 2018, 07:43:37 PM »
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The gobies in the river tank have put on quite a display over the past couple of evenings. Three males have been vying for the attention of one female. I swear that one of the males was twerking for her - which was both disturbing and hilarious.  :rotfl:

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The hornwort was taking over again. There was a layer 6 inches thick floating on top of the tank. This is probably why the Windelov Java fern and bolbitis were beginning to look a bit sad.
During this afternoon's water change I removed all the floating hornwort. It bulged over the top of a B & Q 12 litre builders bucket. I left the stems which were weighted down with terracotta plant weights. Then I sorted through it, picking off the bits of water sprite and Brazilian pennywort. I saved some stems and used extra plant weights from the cupboard, then threw the rest in the compost bin.

One thing I overlooked. Terracotta pants weights are quite light when dry. I now have three of them floating half way down the tank. Hopefully they'll sink when they get waterlogged  ;D

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