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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1400 on: August 06, 2018, 02:31:05 PM »
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Thanks, @Fishbeard. It looked as though 7 were going to become 6 yesterday afternoon as one fish was hanging around on one side of the tank, breathing faster and occasionally throwing kamikaze-like fits against the tank glass; however, I dosed a small amount of Easylife Voogle, after which the situation seems to have rectified itself (touchwood!).

As for the answer to your question, I suspect they might feed off dead/dying plant leaves but I think @Matt or @Littlefish might be your best bets on helping with this.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1401 on: August 06, 2018, 02:50:31 PM »
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There are many reasons not to keep dying plant leaves. Including the fact that they cannot repair themselves, they will worsen water quality, they look unattractive etc etc.
There are fewer reasons to keep them. Perhaps the shrimp might gain some sustinance from eating the leaves but you may also get more algae in the tank from the nutrients released into the water columns as the leaf rots.
Overall my vote would be to remove them. Leave your shrimp to focus on anybody's and algae etc.

@fcmf sorry about your unfortunate turn of events. Fingers crossed the rest of your crew will do well in your excellent care.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1402 on: August 06, 2018, 03:40:55 PM »
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I agree with removing the leaves for the reasons that Matt has listed.
Also, shrimp are not miracle workers, and it would take them such a long time to eat a large dead leaf.
I think that their efforts are best spent pottering around, looking adorable, and munching on any uneaten food or algae in the tank.  :)

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« Reply #1403 on: August 06, 2018, 04:44:00 PM »
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I have just done a water change on both tanks with the help of my husband to carry the buckets. The only complaint was that the old water buckets were too full, and he'd rather carry more buckets with less water in each. He also had chance to water all his garden plants with tank water  ;D

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1404 on: August 06, 2018, 09:57:42 PM »
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Thanks for that, guys. My shrimp aren't miracel workers, but they're hungry little guys. I've seen them zoom in and snatch food from the Corys before now...

I have just done a water change on both tanks with the help of my husband to carry the buckets. The only complaint was that the old water buckets were too full, and he'd rather carry more buckets with less water in each. He also had chance to water all his garden plants with tank water  ;D

On that note, there's something I've wondered occasionally - is tank water better for the garden, or are the quantities of nitrate (along with fish waste and uneaten food) in tank water not nearly substantial enough to offer any significant improvement over ordinary tap water?

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« Reply #1405 on: August 06, 2018, 10:07:15 PM »
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At the moment, it's a matter of water conservation to pour the old tank water over the garden plants, particularly in areas with a hosepipe ban. In winter our garden is usually too water logged to add more.

There is also a school of thought that says we shouldn't pour tank water down the drain because any pathogens in our tanks will end up in the rivers. In the UK, that shouldn't be much of a risk unless we pour it down a surface water drain. The drain that sink and toilet water go down should be thoroughly disinfected at sewage treatment works.


And yes, there will some nitrate in tank water together with any plants fertiliser we add that the plants don't get. Not to mention potassium and phosphate from fish food.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1406 on: August 07, 2018, 07:21:48 AM »
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Thanks for that, guys. My shrimp aren't miracel workers, but they're hungry little guys. I've seen them zoom in and snatch food from the Corys before now...

Mine often zoom in a take mini wafers, then carry then off to the top of a piece of wood to eat them in peace. They are amazing little creatures.

On that note, there's something I've wondered occasionally - is tank water better for the garden, or are the quantities of nitrate (along with fish waste and uneaten food) in tank water not nearly substantial enough to offer any significant improvement over ordinary tap water?

I've been using tank water in my garden. I've got a long hose that I attach to the port on the FX external filters that makes emptying the larger tanks so much easier, and perfect for watering containers and raised beds. As for being better than tap water, I don't know, but the cucumbers I've been growing have done really well on nothing but tank water, and I use the cucumbers (with a few algae wafers stuck in them) to feed the river tank inhabitants, and the plecs in the other tanks.  :)

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1407 on: August 07, 2018, 07:35:40 AM »
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I've been using tank water in my garden. I've got a long hose that I attach to the port on the FX external filters that makes emptying the larger tanks so much easier, and perfect for watering containers and raised beds. As for being better than tap water, I don't know, but the cucumbers I've been growing have done really well on nothing but tank water, and I use the cucumbers (with a few algae wafers stuck in them) to feed the river tank inhabitants, and the plecs in the other tanks.  :)

Very "circle of life" that!

Our hosepipe ban in the north was cancelled, but that's no excuse for wasting water, so the tank water's been going out in the garden anyway. I just wondered if it was that much better - we're all striving to keep nitrate low, so even 40ppm, which is considered high within the fishkeeping community, is relatively low as a pure number. Glad to hear it's doing wonders for others though!

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1408 on: August 10, 2018, 03:59:59 PM »
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Yesterday I went to a local branch of MA to pick up some silicone to attach the last "anubias shelf" in the axolotl tank. Obviously I had a quick look around as well.  ::)
They had young grass carp in the corner pond tank with the glass walls. I was smitten with them, especially the one who was yawning, it was adorable.
Luckily, as they are pond fish that grow to be quite huge, I can't consider them.
The adults look very different to the juvenilles, and aren't quite so cute. So , all things considered, I'm quite glad I can't have them.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1409 on: August 10, 2018, 04:55:41 PM »
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 :yikes: Littlefish didn't buy any fish!

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1410 on: August 10, 2018, 09:15:25 PM »
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 :rotfl:
I will have to go back to see them again, give them a feed, and just enjoy looking at them in the shop.

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