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« Reply #1100 on: April 07, 2018, 04:53:48 PM »
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I have a whole range of such items in the fish cupboard for that purpose. However, I'd pretty much upturned the contents of the fish cupboard, and soaked myself, the walls and the floor during the water change earlier on, and so decided to grab the first item that was close to hand. Thankfully, order (including my brain) has been restored today and the fish cupboard and its contents are all as they should be.

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« Reply #1101 on: April 07, 2018, 04:55:16 PM »
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So glad to hear that your fish are ok @fcmf

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« Reply #1102 on: April 07, 2018, 06:25:34 PM »
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Ditto on the "phew...!!!"   Glad they're all ok fcmf...  :)

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« Reply #1103 on: April 08, 2018, 02:03:39 PM »
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Here it comes again - another intensive wave of fish broodiness, not helped by the fact that my plants are actually doing quite well at the mo (famous last words!) and the surface-level hornwort would make an ideal environment for some sparkling gourami... Argh...

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« Reply #1104 on: April 08, 2018, 03:13:32 PM »
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Ok, that answers my question on your other thread.  ;D

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« Reply #1105 on: April 08, 2018, 04:37:27 PM »
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Surprise, surprise - my fish broodiness took me into the LFS; somehow, I just found myself there although did leave my purse behind due to not trusting myself. There was one little sparkling gourami on its own but, amongst the other temptations, there were pygmy cories - hmmm, would I want to go down that route again after the previous problems I encountered but this time with a much more mature tank and live plants which might result in an entirely different outcome..?  ???

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« Reply #1106 on: April 08, 2018, 08:52:14 PM »
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Both are good choices to my eyes. They will show very different behaviour to your existing stocking. 

I don't hear lots of people struggling with pygmy corys outside of this forum, pandas are nice a nice alternative also.  Would you need to buy sinking food for them or does enough make it to the bottom for them already?

I really enjoyed sparklers when I had them and considered doing a species only tank before I got sucked in by the dwarf puffers... they can be kept in smaller numbers than the corys and I know you were concerned about stocking.... if they are something you've not had before it would be nice to give then a go!

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« Reply #1107 on: April 09, 2018, 02:09:20 PM »
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I bought a trio of honey gouramis some months ago; the male died and I replaced him in January. Last month one of the females vanished. I now have a m/f pair of wild coloured honey gouramis.

I am beginning to suspect I have a rogue female. When there were two females I did notice that one of them continually chased the other. Did she kill the other one, either directly or by the stress of chasing her?
And over the weekend the male has been looking washed out and hiding in the corner behind the heater. I witnessed the female pushing at him. Today he has more colour and is out and about but the female is chasing him, and his tail and dorsal fin look to have been nipped. I know that females of the more aggressive gourami species can be like this but towards other females and not usually males. Honeys are usually regarded as peaceful - for gouramis. I am 99% certain she really is a female because she has a darker stripe from nose to tail, and she did not develop male colours during the time there were just 2 females in the tank.

I need to keep a close eye on these two.

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« Reply #1108 on: April 09, 2018, 02:29:39 PM »
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Squabbling fish is incredibly stressful, eh Sue...   :(

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« Reply #1109 on: April 09, 2018, 08:34:22 PM »
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Today's pic of tank (while it's still relatively lush and taken from a distance whereby algae, etc, isn't too obvious).  ;D

PS. Hmmm - didn't quite realise what an eyesore that second filter was; will have to move it back slightly and slide one of the hygrophila polyspermas across to hide it somewhat!

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« Reply #1110 on: April 09, 2018, 09:36:12 PM »
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Looking great. The plants are looking very lush and healthy. Looks like you've cracked  it with real plants.  :cheers:

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« Reply #1111 on: April 09, 2018, 10:21:52 PM »
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Yep, definitely lush looking fcmf...   :D

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« Reply #1112 on: April 10, 2018, 04:34:10 AM »
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Tank is looking great  8)

You've got me thinking now about building a filter out of square black guttering downpipe... silicone it to the bottom of the tank in the corner, pump in the bottom drawing water in through drilled holes near the substrate, pushing up through filter sponge and flowing out near the surface at 90 via some more drilled holes. Heater hidden in there of course, using corner of another bit of the downpipe siliconed into an inside corner of the filter to create a little chamber for it, again loads of holes drilled to disperse the heat...

Why is my brain thinking this all up at 4.30 in the morning when i should be asleep?...

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« Reply #1113 on: April 10, 2018, 08:18:47 AM »
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Good to see you plants doing well @fcmf   ;D

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« Reply #1114 on: April 10, 2018, 09:14:14 AM »
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Your tank is looking great  :)

I know the feeling where you suddenly realise you can keep plants alive after all  ;D

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« Reply #1115 on: April 10, 2018, 06:49:38 PM »
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Thanks for the kind words, all. Definitely a good feeling that I can look at the tank now and feel quite proud of it - but still a bit unsure of how long it will last like this, hence taking the pic.  ;D

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« Reply #1116 on: April 11, 2018, 07:04:11 PM »
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I think my betta is nearing the end of his life  :'(

I am surprised he has lived as long as he has. I bought him 7 months ago and I commented to my husband after a few days that I didn't expect him to live long. He was hyperactive, spending long periods dashing around his tank. This is not normal betta behaviour.
This abnormal behaviour lasted till about 2 weeks ago, then he started spitting his food out, then trying to eat it again and spitting it out yet again. He's had only 2 or 3 pellets a day since then. Over the last week, a lump has grown on the underside of his 'throat' between his gills, and today he has just been lying on the bottom of the tank or wedged in a plant. As I type he is lying on his side on top of the heater.
I'll be surprised if he is still alive tomorrow.

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« Reply #1117 on: April 11, 2018, 08:33:12 PM »
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Very sorry to read about this, Sue - that does indeed sound like your prediction for tomorrow is accurate. It's horrible when this happens. :'( At least his short life was with someone with plenty of betta experience and who couldn't have given him a better (sorry - this was not meant to be a pun) home or do anything more for him.

[Note to self: tell the story tomorrow re the harlequins' antics; not appropriate to do so today in light of above sad news.]

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« Reply #1118 on: April 11, 2018, 08:44:01 PM »
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I should also have mentioned that this fish was a tail biter. The colour patterning in his tail when I bought him was unusual - an orange spike running from body to tail through an otherwise clear fin. I realised a couple of months later that this was because he bit his tail (I thought it was fin rot the first time I saw it) with the remaining old parts being orange and the new growth clear. Again, not normal betta behaviour.
If it was possible for a fish to be neurotic, that's how I'd describe him. Certainly highly strung. It looks as though he burned himself out too quickly.

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« Reply #1119 on: April 11, 2018, 08:47:56 PM »
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Sorry to hear about your betta @Sue

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« Reply #1120 on: April 11, 2018, 09:13:33 PM »
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Fcmf is right... I know the lengths you went to to ensue he was always happy, I think it is you with the cereal box tank side cover contraption...? I'm sure he will have very much enjoyed his stay as chez Sue.

I saw an amazing betta at my local MA last weekend, quite unusual coloration with, white gold and orange.  They are beautiful and characterful fish, problem is they steal our hearts as a result... my thoughts are with you and your little guy.

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« Reply #1121 on: April 11, 2018, 09:20:43 PM »
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Yes, that was me with the sunscreen. And removing his snail to my other tank, and a few other things to see what was stressing him to make him bite his tail. I never did stop it.

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« Reply #1122 on: April 11, 2018, 10:32:31 PM »
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« Reply #1123 on: April 12, 2018, 09:08:18 AM »
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As expected he was dead this morning.


RIP Mr Fish.




I knew from a few days after I bought him that I wouldn't have him long.

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« Reply #1124 on: April 12, 2018, 09:12:55 AM »
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Sorry to hear that Mr Fish has passed.  :(
I know he had problems from the beginning, and I believe that he has lasted longer with you than he would have done with someone else.

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« Reply #1125 on: April 12, 2018, 12:43:56 PM »
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RIP Mr Fish.  :'(

My harlequins have taken up a new game in the past week attempting to jump between the aquascaping tweezers (is that the correct term?) when I put them in the tank to lift out a dead plant leaf. It was a close call yesterday as to whether it was a piece of the remnants of an alternanthera rosefolia or a harlequin which had been lifted out! I am now having to insert the tweezers purposefully closed, checking that no harlequins are around, then getting the tweezers as close as possible to the stray leaf and opening them as little as possible to retrieve it.

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« Reply #1126 on: April 12, 2018, 12:46:24 PM »
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That's kinda funny fcmf...  I just hope they don't harm themselves with their new games/play  :)

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« Reply #1127 on: April 12, 2018, 05:03:03 PM »
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Sorry to hear about your Betta @Sue.

I've noticed my Harlequins doing mad things, but it is usually restricted to racing in the filter outflow or facing off to each other.

Sorry, but I find the idea of them playing chicken when you're aquascaping funny.

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« Reply #1128 on: April 12, 2018, 05:09:47 PM »
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In my main tank it's the rice fish that are suicidal.
I also have a few Boraras (about 4 B. brigittae and 2 B. maculatus) left over from shoals in my old 50 litre tank. When i closed that tank the inhabitants were moved into the 180 litre. I rarely see the Boraras except during water changes when the two maculatus come to see what's going on. They are so small that I'm always worried about sucking them up.

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« Reply #1129 on: April 13, 2018, 09:33:58 AM »
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@fcmf how is your female tetra doing? Has she passed the hair that she swallowed?
I've had a couple of moments of panic recently when I thought I had hairs in the river tank. Luckily, each time was just a shrimp behind a rock or piece of wood, with it's massive feelers waving in the flow from the manifold.  ::)  :)

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« Reply #1130 on: April 13, 2018, 02:01:45 PM »
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She's fine, thanks, LF - it passed through shortly afterwards that evening. At first, I thought it was a piece of hornwort, then realised that, no, indeed it was a strand of my hair. Found 2 strands of my hair in the tank this morning. It's fine during water changes as I wear a protective hairnet but don't bother with that when putting food or aquascaping tweezers in the tank which is when such incidents happen.

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« Reply #1131 on: April 13, 2018, 06:20:20 PM »
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Thanks to the suggestions on another thread, my method of filling the siphon changed today and consequently I've just ended up doing a water change without getting a mouthful of water - and somehow managed to avoid soaking myself and the walls, possibly due to paying extra care generally.  ;D

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« Reply #1132 on: April 13, 2018, 06:47:02 PM »
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Congratulations @fcmf   :cheers:

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« Reply #1133 on: April 13, 2018, 08:12:42 PM »
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Going through MA's website, clicking on the profiles for each of the cories, purely to broaden my own knowledge, of course, although it does no harm playing on the CC, again purely out of innocent interest - turns out there are quite a few small ones that I wasn't aware of, just in case anyone's interested. Besides the pygmy, hastatus and habrosus micro-/nano-sized cories, and the panda cories, there are another batch around 4.5cm - loretos, masked fairies, elegans, spotted, six-rays...

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« Reply #1134 on: April 13, 2018, 08:21:20 PM »
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The 4.5 cm cories (that's almost 2 inches) are usually classed as standard sized cories.

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« Reply #1135 on: April 13, 2018, 08:41:37 PM »
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Ah right. I had developed my own classification system of 6cm being standard and 7cm being large. Useful to know that 4.5 is actually considered standard. The six-ray (judging by SF's sizes) would probably be classified as small, though, at 30-35mm - maybe only it and pandas are classified as small (assuming the micro-sized ones are very small).

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« Reply #1136 on: April 13, 2018, 10:49:13 PM »
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Cories are also very slow growers (sorry if I'm making them sound like plants!) So if bought small they will stay small for a while longer than you might think!  In fact I just added three to my existing 2 and although I have the 2 juveniles for a long time (at least a year), they still look small compared to the new ones I bought which are clearly much older.

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« Reply #1137 on: April 14, 2018, 01:36:33 AM »
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Hard not to fall under the spell of Corydoras once you have them...  :)

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« Reply #1138 on: April 14, 2018, 05:59:21 AM »
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Hard not to fall under the spell of Corydoras once you have them...  :)

Definitely  :fishy1:

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« Reply #1139 on: April 15, 2018, 11:37:43 PM »
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At the same time though, they can be cheeky little blighters too...!!!  :rotfl:

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« Reply #1140 on: April 19, 2018, 07:17:54 PM »
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In my betta's tank were two pieces of wood, one with bolbitis attached, the other with anubias at one end and java fern at the other. I always had problems with the long filament type of algae on all these plants. After the betta died, i put the wood & plants into the main tank as I won't be getting another betta just yet (and I'm feeding the filter with ammonia)
Today I did a water change in the big tank, and there is no sign of the algae on the betta tank plants. This could be due to any of the following:
nerite snails
cherry shrimps
stiphodons

I can put a nerite back in the small tank when I get a new betta but i don't think shrimps or stiphodons are a good idea.



The reason I haven't got a new betta yet is because we are going to have the radiator moved from underneath the worktop the tank is on and I would not like to either subject a new betta to the work, or move a new betta temporarily. Once the work is done, I'll be betta shopping  :)

Besides, I've had a rotten cold for the last week and just haven't felt in the mood even for fish shopping  :o

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« Reply #1141 on: April 19, 2018, 11:23:36 PM »
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I've long been tempted by a single black Nerite snail...  The thought of a global sesame seed attack is what puts me off though, but I believe there's simply nothing better as an algae & detritus muncher...!!!

Tempted by more Cappuccino Faunus snails though, for sure...  and more Rabbits...

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« Reply #1142 on: April 20, 2018, 10:47:31 AM »
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I have had nerites for years, and I don't always have eggs. I bought 3 the same type a few years ago and one of them did lay eggs so I separated that one from the other two (I had three tanks back then) and hey presto, no more eggs in any tank.
And I've never had eggs with a single nerite. They need two to tango....

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« Reply #1143 on: April 20, 2018, 12:41:32 PM »
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Any problems with Nerites "falling over" Sue, as I believe they can't right themselves if they topple at certain angles...?

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« Reply #1144 on: April 20, 2018, 12:50:38 PM »
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Frequently  ;D

If they are near enough to something rigid they can grab hold of that and pull themselves onto it, but if they are too far away they try to grab hold of the substrate which doesn't work - they stay upside down with a foot covered in gravel or sand and we need to rescue them. But that was in the past. I now have so much wood with attached plants  in my tank that they always have something close enough to grab hold of.
It is quite interesting watching a snail come further and further out of its shell looking for something to grab hold of. They can reach round 180 degrees; that's when they try to grab hold of gravel/sand.

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« Reply #1145 on: April 20, 2018, 10:37:49 PM »
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I spoke to Sebastian, via e-mail, at length about the various snail types they sell...  He described Nerites as eating machines, when it comes to algae and detritus etc...  :)   The type he said are the worst potential candidates for egg laying were the Horned Nerites, which is such a shame as they do look kinda funky (meant in a good way:)

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« Reply #1146 on: April 21, 2018, 08:46:20 AM »
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And I've never had eggs with a single nerite. They need two to tango....
The impression I get, from googling and reading of others' experiences, is that a single nerite female does still produce eggs, so perhaps Sue's been lucky in that respect? I also read about horned nerites being the worst - shame for you, TopCookie, as they're the ones that have the advantage of being small/lightweight enough to eat algae off plant leaves. Personally, much as I very much enjoy having a snail in my tank for the different behaviour and aesthetics, I wouldn't buy one purely for algae-eating as I find there doesn't seem to be any particular strategy in this regard - a patch of algae may be left untouched while he goes over and over a seemingly algae-free area and leaving footprint patterns behind.

I was going to recount my experiences of my nerite landing upside down, usually having done acrobatics off the filter or misjuding the weight of a plant leaf, and that he seems to have learned from the error of his ways over time, being careful to test out plant weight with his feelers before deciding whether or not to move onto it. However, I heard a clink this morning - he had fallen from the top of the glass and landed on his back, the second time I'm aware of that he's done this over the past few months.  ::)

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I have had nerites snails in the past. And although I rather like them and find them interesting, I've not bought any more. I'm not convinced that my planted tank has enough algae to sustain a decent sized snail. (Once it settled down.)

I didn't dislike the sesame seed egg effect but that has gone from all visible surfaces in my tank. I'm not sure which of the inhabitants are the eggs, but someone clearly did. When I rearranged the tank, I discovered that the underside of a smaller bit of wood, that had been partially buried still had eggs on, so they've not dissolved or anything.

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The cause of the most recent batch of nerite eggs were the two #1 snails shown in this thread https://forums.thinkfish.co.uk/gallery-showcase/snail-photos/ They even laid eggs on the glass. But once separated, neither of them laid eggs. I have to confess that the one in the betta's tank is no more. When I thought it was stressing the betta too much I put it in a tub of water and forgot about it  :o :-[ (I did have three, one of them died shortly after purchase)

I suspect snail #3 is not well. See photo in reply 13 in the same thread. It was on its back when I did the water change so I put it on a rock and it's still there 2 days later. It is still alive - it didn't smell and it held it's operculum (trapdoor) tight when it pulled at it with a fingernail. Maybe it's responsible for the disappearance of all the filament algae from the betta tank plants and is just sleeping it off  ;D





Several years ago when I had 125 and 60 litre tanks I had just one nerite in the 125. The filter in the 60 was a Hagen Trio, a filter which had a large flat front. http://www.hagen.com/img/aquatic/products/a360.jpg It grew algae all over the front. So I borrowed the snail from the 125 litre. It didn't take long for it to find this field of algae and ate its way round and round in the most elaborate patterns till there was none left.

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I do love that about the Faunus snails and the Rabbit snails...  no eggs per se and no getting stuck when falling over (which they both do)...  But then variety is nice too...!!!

My biggest single problem with the whole hobby is that I am a victim of rampant indecision, lolol...   :rotfl:

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