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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1050 on: March 04, 2018, 10:42:49 AM »
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A belated welcome from me to the forum, @Geoffish  :wave: 

Tank looks good - and nice to "meet" Kevin.  :)

Useful tips/pointers as to what might help with brown algae - thanks for sharing these. You're doing better with dwarf hair grass than I did - mine lasted only a few days.

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« Reply #1051 on: March 04, 2018, 05:36:12 PM »
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Another tip for feeding kuhlis is to feed them at or after lights out. They are generally nocturnal fish. I drop food at the front of the tank and then watch the kuhlis come out. When I refurbished my substrate, the kuhlis would hunt the tiny substrate life that had been disturbed. It was really fascinating to watch.

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« Reply #1052 on: March 04, 2018, 05:52:23 PM »
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Thanks @fcmf:) Interesting you had issues with dwarf grass, I guess I was just lucky. I did manage to kill off the first Anubia I put in (attached to bogwood), which are supposed to be fairly indestructible, so I'm certainly no plant expert!

@Helen, good tip. I had noticed that any scraps of food disappear overnight, but assumed it was the barbs. The various tips I've had on here seem to work, but will experiment more in the coming days. Out of interest, how many kuhlis do you have? I've got 5, but hear that they are happier in bigger numbers.

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« Reply #1053 on: March 04, 2018, 10:02:01 PM »
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I currently only have 2 kuhlis. They could be up to 8 years old. They were the only kuhli survivors from a case of white spot. Since then, my tank has been through severe neglect and they have still survived. (I think they ate all / any snails)

 Over the last 6 months or so, I have been refurbishing my tank and have since tried to increase the number of kuhlis. I have an open 'order' with my local MA for more, but am not having much luck. I should probably give them a call, but because kuhli are scale less fish, they can be quite delicate, so I  being patient (the case of white spot was when I bought kuhlis in snowy winter). I went in to the MA about a month ago to collect 6 or 12 (I hadn't decided) that I'd reserved and the stores entire stock had been wiped out by white spot.

I am looking forward to increasing the numbers as they are my favourite fish. Though, my most recent additions of dwarf rainbow fish (bought on the kuhli trip) are climbing up the popularity rankings!

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« Reply #1054 on: March 04, 2018, 10:21:31 PM »
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Hmm, that's interesting. I've only been to my nearest MA once. It had a v big selection of fish, but everything looks healthier in my LFS and so far they've had everything I've wanted to buy. Sometimes I have to wait a few days for the next delivery (and settling in period), but that's ok. They had a tank that must have had 100 kuhli in it! They also had marbled hatchet, which are on my long term list (once the plants have brown up to the surface).

Dwarf rainbows are on my list too along with dwarf gourami (amongst others). I plan to get some (either rainbows or gourami) in a month or so.  :)

I've just been watching the night time action. My kuhlis were nowhere to be seen (probably hiding under the dragon stone). So much for being nocturnal, my guys are more active during the day! Not that I'm complaining!

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« Reply #1055 on: March 06, 2018, 02:44:05 PM »
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I've been working on the river tank for the past few weeks, mainly draining, re-arranging decor, and refilling to check the flow. Over the weekend I had the misfortune of the handle of one of my buckets breaking, and spilling 11 litres of water onto the carpet  ::)
I think I've finally got it to the point that it's nearly ready, or at least to the point where the work involved in draining and refilling seems like too much effort for any more minor changes for a while.

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« Reply #1056 on: March 06, 2018, 09:28:02 PM »
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Looking forward to seeing the photos of the revamped tank. :)  Hope the carpet has dried out successfully.

The "tropical quartet" cube this evening seems to have had an aphrodisiac effect on my own fishtank inhabitants this evening.  :o

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« Reply #1057 on: March 09, 2018, 06:02:14 PM »
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One of the male tetras was behaving oddly towards something on the tank glass, as though eyeing it up and ready to take a pounce to eat it from the glass. It turned out to be a tiny white worm of about 3 mm long which was moving around. I watched for about a minute, then went to wash my hands with a view to removing it with an algae scrubber but, by the time I'd returned, it seemed to have disappeared and the tetra had resumed normal behaviour - I suspect he consumed his prey. I had "planaria" in my head and, if this was/is it (am I correct?), a quick search on here suggests that it's probably harmless (thoughts/suggestions welcome if not, though); thanks.

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« Reply #1058 on: March 09, 2018, 06:57:01 PM »
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My husband bought our daughter a usb microscope for Christmas. It has been used to look at the fish tank in detail (within about 10cm of the front of the glass - the lense can't focus any further away.)

We discovered a lot of tiny life, which is all apparently normal and harmless. And I suspect the reason that my kuhlis didn't starve during the period of neglect in my tank.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1059 on: March 10, 2018, 07:55:24 AM »
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From what I understand about planaria, I think most of us probably have a few of these in our tanks even if we don't know about it. A few is ok, as with anything, but if you get an infestation it can be a problem. They feed off detritus in the tank, fish poo etc. so the way to keep their numbers down is through good tank maintenance. I'm pretty sure that your tank is very well maintained @fcmf so I'm sure there is no need to worry  :D

http://www.aquariadise.com/planaria-in-the-aquarium/

I've seen a video if someone use that dewormer to great effect on an infested tank but it was on a shrimp only tank... not sure how it would affect fish.

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« Reply #1060 on: March 10, 2018, 08:32:16 AM »
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Thanks, both.

I was tempted to dig out an old magnifying glass last night but then thought of how frequently I've ended up with a mouthful of tankwater when starting the syphon and felt a bit :sick: at the thought of discovering what else might be lurking in the tank.

Until recent months, when I've been leaving the live plants in situ during water changes, I used to give the tank a probably over-thorough clean, digging deep into the sand each time and taking absolutely all decor out of the tank. Of course, now the plants are in situ and the sand is much deeper to keep them that way. Over the past 2.5 weeks since attempting to cycle the new filter's media, a lot of food has been floating to the bottom as the fish try to get to grasps with the new filter flow and their new fish food (replacing packets/tubs of different brands which had been open for quite some time). I've been trying to do 10% water changes every few days to address this but don't think I'm very skilled at manoeuvring the syphon tubing around the base of the plants. I'd been conscious that there was probably more detritus in the tank than usual - in fact, I'd even been wondered about the addition of a shoal of pygmy cories to address the dropped food, before reminding myself that Thinkfish (although not AqAdvisor) would classify this as overstocked, a risk I daren't take. So it's altogether very plausible that altered tank maintenance might account for the planaria, if that's what it is. Anyway, I'll keep an eye out for any more signs or whether this was an isolated case. I'll also take a read of the linked article now - thanks for that, Matt.

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« Reply #1061 on: March 10, 2018, 09:11:30 AM »
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From what I can gather, the worms we all call planaria are harmless - these are the hair thin worms a couple of cm long., and are really detritus worms. Real planaria are a lot bigger. Lots and lots of detritus worms = too much food.

I don't bother moving my decor when I clean the tank any more after reading comments by that very knowledgeable chap on the other forum. I just hoover up the snail poo where I can reach it, and the bits that collect under the filter. The chap said that the substrate is home to a whole host of micro-organisms which we should avoid disturbing. Even 'dead' areas under decor should be left as they contain anaerobic bacteria.
And I have Malaysian trumpet snails in the sand to eat any food that gets down in there.

I use a wine siphon tube to clean between decor - this is like a siphon tube except that wide cylinder in the end is replaced with a narrow rigid tube which is much easier for getting between things. I start the siphon by filling the tube with water at the sink, and between buckets of water just put it in an empty bucket - carefully so the open ends are high up and the tube doesn't drain empty.


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« Reply #1062 on: March 10, 2018, 05:43:11 PM »
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I use a wine siphon tube to clean between decor - this is like a siphon tube except that wide cylinder in the end is replaced with a narrow rigid tube which is much easier for getting between things.
Useful tips on syphoning/siphoning - thanks, Sue. Re the wine siphon tube, is a "siphon tube tap" the rigid part that goes at the end and ought it to fit in the end of any siphon? If so, I might just order that part.

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« Reply #1063 on: March 11, 2018, 09:21:10 AM »
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With the various bits of tubing i have accumulated, my wine siphon tubing is narrower than the fish siphon tubing so the rigid tube won't fit in fish siphon tubing. Well, it'll fit in but it will also fall out. But in my case, neither the wine tubing nor the fish tubing is long enough. So with a bit of persuasion, and making sure the tube ends are warm and wet (ie soak them in hot water for a few minutes first), it is possible to insert the wine tubing into the fish tubing to make one nice long piece of tubing. Then just insert the rigid tube into the other end of the wine tubing.

Wine and beer making siphons are like this one from Wilkinsons http://www.wilko.com/homebrew-accessories+equipment/wilko-syphon-pack/invt/0022573  I remove the cup from the end of the rigid plastic tube, and the tap from the other end. (The cup is so that you can place the bottom of the tube on the bottom of the container and the top of the cup is above the sediment on the bottom. The wine/beer flows down into the cup then up the tube. This is not the ideal way to clean a fish tank where you want to pick up the sediment  ;D )

This is a photo of the tubing I use on my big tank. You can see the rigid tube from the wine siphon inserted into the flexible tubing from the wine siphon; this is then inserted into a shorter piece of tubing from a fish siphon.
The wire spiral is a screwcumber (for feeding cucumber etc to veggie fish) just to make that end of the tube heavier so it stays in the bucket. I keep my water change stuff in the greenhouse and in winter the tubing is cold and won't straighten out till at least half way through the first bucket.The weight helps pull it straighter.

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« Reply #1064 on: March 11, 2018, 12:25:24 PM »
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Thanks, Sue - very helpful.

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« Reply #1065 on: March 11, 2018, 11:02:58 PM »
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The heater in the 220litre has given up the ghost...  :yikes:

I have the 64 litre dwarf puffer tank normally held at 23 degrees now wrapped up in blankets with no heater. And the 220 litre at just 21 degrees whereas that's normally at 26 degrees. The 100w heater from the dwarf puffer tank is set to 21 degrees to hopefully hold this temperature from dropping further overnight... Ill swap the heater back into the puffer tank in the morning and ramp the heating in the house up!

I suspect the heater may have stopped working a while ago and I have only just notcied.  :vcross:

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« Reply #1066 on: March 12, 2018, 07:38:37 PM »
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Best of luck with your heater issues @Matt

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« Reply #1067 on: March 12, 2018, 08:17:30 PM »
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Goodness; hope you have managed to get a new heater (or do so soon), Matt.

I bought a new plant yesterday from the LFS. This morning, my nerite had company on the front glass and the new plant had various chunks out of it, clearly made by the baby hitch-hiker. He (the hitch-hiker) has since been rehomed.

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« Reply #1068 on: March 12, 2018, 09:00:56 PM »
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New heater in place by 11:00, slowly increasing temperature  :cheers:

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« Reply #1069 on: March 14, 2018, 11:01:47 PM »
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 :cheers:, @Matt.

Interesting observation today. Someone sent me a hand-drawn pic of a fish and I noticed its nose pointed in the opposite direction to the only way I can draw a fish. I wonder if right-handed people can only draw fish with the nose to the left and tail to the right, while it's the opposite way round for left-handed people?

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« Reply #1070 on: March 15, 2018, 09:10:15 AM »
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Hmm, I'm right handed and the nose is always on the left as well.

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« Reply #1071 on: March 15, 2018, 10:12:25 AM »
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Hmm, I'm right handed and the nose is always on the left as well.

Me too.

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« Reply #1072 on: March 21, 2018, 09:00:54 PM »
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I keep looking at everyone's photos and how well aquascaped they are in comparison with my own tank. I was having a browse through the internet for inspiration at how I could alter mine to make it look better and found this https://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/features/articles/how-to-get-your-aquascape-right-first-time - it seems I've fallen foul of no.9 in particular. Therefore, it seems I've eventually recognised that mine's not aquascaped but haven't quite worked out what to do to get it looking better / more aquascaped.

Once I've "de-algaefied" some of my plants and have done the next water change, I'll take a photo of my tank - 50% of plants in my last photos https://forums.thinkfish.co.uk/fish-tank-plant-advice/how-to-improve-my-plant-health/ have probably died by now - and seek some advice on what to move where... Thanks in advance. :)

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« Reply #1073 on: March 22, 2018, 05:38:46 AM »
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I can't tell you how much I would recommend drawing out a few options in paper and pen first for your scape. Its much easier to trial things this way, think through the aquascapingp principles and its also muh less disruptive to the fish  :fishy1:

I'd be happy to help in any way I can... remind me... what hardscape materials do you have?

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« Reply #1074 on: March 22, 2018, 08:01:05 AM »
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Good idea re drawing out plans on paper. I want to minimise disruption to the fish - unfortunately, as soon as they see the tweezers coming near the tank now just to lift out a broken-off plant leaf, they huddle together in a tight inter-species shoal of 10, so it will have to be a basic slide of plant positioning, etc, rather than removing everything and doing a major renovation. Will be glad to have your (and others') help; thanks. In terms of hardscape, I only have some small pieces of limestone rock (currently tucked away under the filter); I do have something larger which served as a cave for a while but it was prone to falling over and I didn't want any casualties. I also wasn't keen on having anything too hard in the tank as the snail was prone to being overly ambitious about plant leaves being able to support his weight and prone to climbing up the filter outlet nozzle and doing acrobatic flips and ending up on his back/shell; however, he seems to be getting more careful these days, so more hardscape is possibly something I could consider.

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« Reply #1075 on: March 22, 2018, 08:42:15 AM »
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I don't think my method of landscaping is recommended at all  :-[

Buy a tank and add bits to it as and when I feel it needs a bit of something else. I started out with plastic decor - fake logs, fake plants etc. The various bits have been moved from tank to tank as I upgraded and in more recent years, they have been swapped for real wood and real plants. This is not the way to plan a new tank  ;D

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« Reply #1076 on: March 22, 2018, 09:35:22 AM »
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I'm right there with you Sue.  ;D

I went to Aquarium Gardens recently, to get some plants for the new tiger barb set up. Dave was kind enough to spend some time going through plant combinations with me, and made things seem really straight forward. I came home with my box of plants and started working on the tank.
Currently it looks totally rubbish. I keep telling myself that it will look better when the plants start to grow, but my main priority is always going to be the fish rather than the plants, so their favourite fake hollow log had to go into the tank. I tried my best to disguise it with the two types of java fern, arranged the same way that Dave suggested, but I'm not impressed with my efforts.  ???

The fish are still in their quarantine tanks, so I have plenty of time to sort the new tank out, but I'm not known for my patience, and plant growth is not always known as speedy.  ::)

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« Reply #1077 on: March 24, 2018, 10:15:00 PM »
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I wouldn't be wanting anything technically difficult - more a matter of re-positioning / sliding some plants from one location to another and possibly adding in some slate. As it happens, though, I've had another one of my online shopping faux-pas - overdid a plant order and the tank is now so heavily planted that the poor fish are having to squeeze themselves in among them - so this has dictated where the plants are positioned for now.

 

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« Reply #1078 on: March 26, 2018, 11:48:41 AM »
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I think we might need a photo of that @fcmf  :yikes:

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« Reply #1079 on: March 26, 2018, 11:52:14 AM »
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I think we might need a photo of that @fcmf  :yikes:

+1   :raspberries

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« Reply #1080 on: March 26, 2018, 06:33:28 PM »
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It doesn't look as plant-heavy in a photo as it does in real life but here goes (why do I always cringe :-[ as I upload my pics?). The oversized-for-the-size-of-the-tank Echinodorus twist has been dumped in the middle where it has support from the wood while the hornwort has been slapped over the BBA-ridden anubias in an effort to "de-algaefy" it.

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« Reply #1081 on: March 26, 2018, 06:37:10 PM »
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Looking good to me fcmf, and there's still plenty of substrate clearly visible so even allowing for it looking busier in the flesh than in the photo, I'd still say that wasn't over planted or anything...  I bet your water parameters are spot on every time you check 'em now...  :)

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« Reply #1082 on: March 26, 2018, 07:29:47 PM »
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Thanks, @TopCookie. I'm fortunate to have 0 nitrates in the tap water which certainly helps with good water quality although I am very diligent with my water changes and do quite large ones. Nitrates in the tank were 20 when I kept silk plants but have actually been a bit higher since converting to real plants - part of this may be that I over-cleaned when keeping silk plants as I removed all the decor and deep-cleaned the very thin layer of substrate, whereas I now don't remove the plants when cleaning the tank and have a lot more substrate.

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« Reply #1083 on: March 26, 2018, 10:10:39 PM »
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You have a really nice variety of plants there... starting to look like a Dutch style aquascape!

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« Reply #1084 on: March 27, 2018, 08:27:14 AM »
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Wow - I never expected to read the term 'aquascape' in the same sentence as referring to my aquarium, but I'll gladly accept it as a compliment; thanks, @Matt. :) The plants are generally lasting longer now that I decant them out of their pots, and there is less algae since I reduced lighting by 35mins to 7hrs,45mins; however, I'm quite sure that it won't be too long before the tank looks much barer again (eg the alternanthera at the back is starting to wilt).

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« Reply #1085 on: March 27, 2018, 05:20:58 PM »
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Great plants @fcmf - well done  :cheers:

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« Reply #1086 on: March 27, 2018, 09:16:40 PM »
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Looking good @fcmf  :cheers:

Have you considered that maybe you struggle with plants because your water conditions are too good? Some of the things we do to make our tank water quality perfect for fish can mean that the plants don't have the nutrients they need to thrive.

When you change the water, do you pour the new water on or near the anubias? I found that in my tank the BBA increased after water changes and then I noticed that it was only near where I poured the new water in. By pouring water only in one small area, it created enough of a fluctuation in CO2 to encourage the BBA.

I also found that with low nitrates, the echinodorus really struggled. My tank has been much better balanced since I took them out.

The key to keeping plants is balancing nutrients (so each tank set up is different, which doesn't always make it easy to identify problems). So if your nitrate levels have increased, it points to one of the other nutrients (possibly macro, so potassium or phosphate) being the rate limiter (ie too low). Do you have the means to test P and K?

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« Reply #1087 on: March 27, 2018, 09:32:12 PM »
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You may very well have figured out the problem, @Helen - all of this is very plausible and I do reckon there is a lack of nutrients, esp with such soft water.

When you change the water, do you pour the new water on or near the anubias?
Yep, always - onto the top of the spare filter which is directly beside the anubias.

I'll get "on the case" with getting a P and K test - I strongly expect they will be very low but it would be good to know definitively.

Thanks.  :)

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« Reply #1088 on: March 31, 2018, 11:21:29 AM »
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@fcmf , how successful have you been with keeping your plants in the sand recently? When you initially took them out of the pots, I'd not had my smaller, shallower substrate for long. I have discovered that the smaller the substrate, the more difficult it is to initially secure the roots in the substrate.

Something I've always done, and now find essential (with the finer substrate and even more so with the sand) is to trim the roots prior to planting. This gives me a lot more control over the roots when planting them (though sometimes it still takes several attempts to get them secure enough).

The theory behind it, is that trimming the roots promotes their growth. Obviously don't want them too short, so I trim to a minimum of about an inch, depending on the size of the plant.

I found the other day that the roots of some of my crypts had grown right across the sand area (about 15-20cm), along the bottom of the tank. Which is quite a lot in about 3 months. ;)

By the way, it took me a very long time (over a year) to figure out why my soft, low nitrate, heavily planted, but under-stocked fish tank wasn't thriving. Then it became extremely resilient to my neglecting it.  :o

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« Reply #1089 on: March 31, 2018, 11:36:49 AM »
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If you can superglue (gel) some gravel to the roots, then place in a dish of water to "cure", the plant should stay planted in the substrate. I've seen this somewhere on a video.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #1090 on: March 31, 2018, 11:52:21 AM »
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Quite a lot of the plants I had a few months ago have sadly died. Probably the greatest determining factor on how well a plant does is making sure it's not got something shading it eg an alternanthera rosaefolia got shaded a bit recently by the new echinodorus twist and the leaves are now disintegrating. Of equal importance, it seems that the thicker the plant leaves, the better they seem to do eg hemiographis colorata is doing well. There are other plants which I think are lasting longer than they would have done if they had remained in their pots, as only a few leaves now drop of these plants each week rather than half of them disintegrating off at once (although this may not have been helped by lifting them all out of the tank during water changes). I've actually had what I think is my first growth of a plant - the hygrophila polysperma has grown by about 50% of its height in a week, and that's even in the "jinxed" corner where most plants die!

Trimming the roots sounds a good plan, @Helen - crypts do seem to get very bulky roots, I've noticed, as I keep having to build up the sand and terracotta rings around them to hold them in place. I think I have some leftover gravel from my goldfish-keeping days, so perhaps supergluing some gravel to their roots as per @Skittler 's suggestion might address this and also help keep the echinodorus twist down - it's currently floating a few inches above the substrate although being kept in position by some wood. Thanks for these suggestions, both.

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« Reply #1091 on: April 03, 2018, 07:42:30 PM »
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My (remaining) female tetra is swimming around with a 2-inch hair of mine protruding out her rear end - just hope it's not a full-length strand or it's going to take forever to pass through! I had an incident with a male tetra a few years ago during his first week in which he got a strand of my hair stuck in his mouth and kept choking and getting distressed in attempts to remove it. I do wear a very fetching hairnet when I do a tank clean / water change but tend to be less diligent about doing so when sticking in an aquascaping tool to remove dead leaves - I expect the hair dropped in then or during feeding time.  ::)

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« Reply #1092 on: April 03, 2018, 08:18:52 PM »
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Oh dear. I hope that she passes the hair fairly soon.

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« Reply #1093 on: April 07, 2018, 02:06:28 PM »
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I am in shock. fcmf has just messaged me about the total destruction of the garden centre at Stokesley which houses - housed -  the MA which was my second favourite fish shop  :yikes:

I've just found the reports on-line (explosion yesterday evening) and it looks horrendous  :'(

I've been studying the aerial photo on here https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/strikes-fire-what-know-far-14502731 and I think the part of the building at the left end in the photo is MA. It was in an section added on to the back of the main garden centre a few years ago.

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« Reply #1094 on: April 07, 2018, 03:22:23 PM »
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 :yikes:

I don't know what else to say.

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« Reply #1095 on: April 07, 2018, 03:43:50 PM »
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Really terrible. The source from which I heard about this has had updates added to it, mentioning 3 of the staff's names and that they found out mid-morn that unfortunately the entire store and all its fish (etc) had perished.  :'(

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« Reply #1096 on: April 07, 2018, 03:52:17 PM »
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I've looked further down the report and yes, that was the MA.

Right at the end of the report is a photo taken from above the field at the rear of the garden centre. You can see the island that the entrance to the garden centre is accessed from, then the main car park between the island and the buildings. You walked into the entrance facing the island, and down the left hand aisle past the seasonal garden stuff (we'd have been going any day now for seed potatoes from that section) and house plants, on past the clothes, shoes, toys etc, then down a short corridor through to MA right at the back - the part of the building nearest the rear hedge. The outdoor area behind MA is where the paving stones etc were kept. The still intact white covers on the left of the photo were over the half hardy plants to protect them from frost, and outside those were the hardy plants and shrubs.


The good thing is that it happened after the garden centre closed. Knowing the layout and the fact that it's Easter holidays, people would have been hurt if it had been open.


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« Reply #1097 on: April 07, 2018, 04:19:10 PM »
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Such awful news.  :'(

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« Reply #1098 on: April 07, 2018, 04:30:18 PM »
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I'm trying to think of something semi-positive to write after the devastating event above.

For various reasons, I was very distracted yesterday evening. Between dinner and washing-up time, I grabbed a bowl from the sink to hold underneath the fish net containing the fishes' dinner (tropical quartet frozen food, having rinsed it, etc) and brought it through to feed them. Having dipped the net in the tank to release the food, I let the fish eat what it contained, then set the net in the bowl for a few minutes and watched them intently before dipping the net in the tank again to release more food still attached to the net. Just after doing this, I realised with horror that the bowl actually contained neat Fairy Liquid in it and that this would definitely have "contaminated" the net and fish food. How on earth I hadn't been aware of this, I don't know - but my mind must have been completely elsewhere. So, on top of the weekly 40% water change having already been done a little earlier, a second 40% water change had to be done. I was semi-dreading what I might wake up to this morning, whether from the aforementioned incident or from the result of too much water changed and therefore a drop in KH and GH to as low as tap water levels, but thankfully everything has been fine (so far, anyway). Lesson learned not to do anything in connection with the fishtank if at all distracted - the outcome could have been horrible!


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« Reply #1099 on: April 07, 2018, 04:38:54 PM »
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Thank goodness the fish were all OK.


This is one advantage to my husband's horror of fish water - I have to use special containers that never go anywhere near food related items. Most of these containers are old margarine tubs, ice cream tubs, yoghurt pots etc. I cannot mistake any of these for 'real' dishes  ;D

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