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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #900 on: October 05, 2017, 07:53:01 AM »
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Have you tried the fish on live/frozen food? Most fish will eat that when they won't eat anything else. i don't mean to feed bloodworm etc exclusively, just to see if he will eat some then you'll know he can eat.
I would very much advocate buying the garlic-infused frozen food. My LFS advocated it (the brine shrimp in my case given the fish I have), plus some Microbe-Lift Herbtana, when my x-ray tetra was in poorly recently. I only bought the garlic-infused brine shrimp - but what a "hit" it has been among everyone from the outset and causes widespread excitement in a way no other food does. Even the two small harlies, who can be very fussy about what food to take if it's not the right size/shape/texture, and who generally ignore the standard frozen food in the tropical fish quartet or spit it out, zoom off at top speed to capture this and munch away happily on it.

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« Reply #901 on: October 05, 2017, 10:15:01 AM »
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I'd forgotten about garlic! If you have your own garlic press or garlic juice you can soak dry food in that as well as adding some to defrosting frozen food.

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« Reply #902 on: October 10, 2017, 07:02:23 PM »
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May have found the answer to running out of space for more tanks.
Not sure how the filtration would work, but.....

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« Reply #903 on: October 10, 2017, 08:13:21 PM »
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I think the worst tank design I've seen recently are half fish bowls that screw in the the wall like a picture.  How on earth your expected to heat, filter etc. tanks like that I have no idea.

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« Reply #904 on: October 10, 2017, 08:23:06 PM »
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I think the fish in keyrings sold in the far east a few years ago beat that  :( http://www.amusingplanet.com/2011/04/live-fish-and-reptiles-sold-as.html

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« Reply #905 on: October 10, 2017, 08:37:07 PM »
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I forgot about that... absolutely disgusting and I'm probably more open to cultural differences than most. That is wrong through and through.

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« Reply #906 on: October 10, 2017, 09:24:06 PM »
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I've seen pictures of the wall-mounted half bowls, but luckily I've never seen them for sale in any shop.
I'd never heard of the keyring ones before.
Really wish I hadn't clicked on the link.
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« Reply #907 on: October 16, 2017, 12:01:26 PM »
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Well, passed my GCSE's good enough for college and im in the mood to totally re-do my tank. The whiptails, julii, tetras and siamese flying fox are going in the 190L and im keeping the panda corydoras, guppy, glass cats and khuli loaches in my 55L as im thining about shrimp... Any suggestions and sorry for my long break!

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« Reply #908 on: October 16, 2017, 04:35:24 PM »
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Many congratulations on your exam results @apache6467   :cheers:

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« Reply #909 on: October 16, 2017, 10:15:15 PM »
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One suggestion if you get different coloured shrimp which can breed together (eg. caridina sp.) They will often produce grey/brown dull offspring which you may wish to avoid. Of course keeping something like red cherry shrimp with amano shrimp as I do avoids this issue.

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« Reply #910 on: October 17, 2017, 09:51:32 AM »
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Congrats on the exam results  :)
What is the next step for you? I know you've mentioned college, but doing what exactly?

With shrimps you meed to make sure that different shrimp species need the same water parameters - pH, harness and temperature - just the same as for fish.
Red cherry shrimps are the easiest. There are different colours (orange, yellow, blue, chocolate) but these are more delicate having been selectively bred from red cherries, which in their turn were selectively bred from the brownish wild ones.
Amanos and ghost/glass shrimps are next easiest.
Crystal reds & blacks are harder, as are things like tiger shrimps.

The best source of info on shrimps is Planet Inverts

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« Reply #911 on: October 17, 2017, 12:43:58 PM »
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I have my eye on a couple of bamboo shrimp...something a bit different.  :)

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« Reply #912 on: October 21, 2017, 06:36:24 PM »
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The fair is in town. It takes place in the High Street which is closed on Tuesday evening as the fair gets itself into position, then again on Thursday evening, Friday evening and 10.45 am to midnight on Saturday while the fair is open. Most of the small shops close for the week.
We needed to go to the supermarket this morning and were there as the horse flashing took place, and the mayor and his entourage were driven up the High Street in a covered contraption pulled by a steam engine. While this was going on, the fair people were getting ready to open for the day.

And I was sickened to see the stalls that are still giving away goldfish as prizes. So much for all the petitions calling for this to be banned.

I do wonder if this practice will ever be banned  :(

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« Reply #913 on: October 21, 2017, 07:35:48 PM »
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@Sue - I think you need to station yourself beside such a stall and provide some educational advice to prospective participants about goldfish care and requirements. :fishy1: It's events such as these which perpetuate the belief that goldfish are way down the hierarchy of pets.

The tetra with the various injuries has had the brightest tail of all the tetras for the past week. She has also taken a keen liking for the snail food - Snail Stixx which are to prevent the snail's shell from eroding in my very soft water - and has found a way of sneaking into his miniature clay pot to munch on it at any opportunity, even when he's buried in the dissolved food. I thought I'd managed to position it facing one of the tank walls and thus avoid her from accessing it but she's learned quickly how to do so. She's now guarding the pot and shooing anyone away who comes within the vicinity - I think she thinks she's a cichlid guarding her fry!
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« Reply #914 on: October 21, 2017, 07:47:22 PM »
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That's good news about the tetra  :)



Apparently in England and Wales the Animal Welfare Act 2006 did almost ban goldfish at fairs then at the last minute the very influential fairground industry got it changed from a total ban to a ban on giving fish to under 16 year olds unless there was an adult present. Scotland did manage to ban the giving of animals as prizes "except where it is offered in a family context".
There is more than one stall at our fair. I'd need an army of helpers - assuming the fair people didn't get me removed.

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« Reply #915 on: October 21, 2017, 08:02:38 PM »
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@fcmf glad to hear that your tetra is doing well, even if she has taken over the snail food & pot.  :D

@Sue it's a shame that fish can still be given as prizes. They are usually kept in such attrocious conditions on the stall, and are then given to people without any further information (not even a leaflet) on caring for the fish. I can't imagine this happening with any other animal. Imagine the uproar if there was a stall with loads of hamsters in little cages...

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« Reply #916 on: November 05, 2017, 06:34:11 PM »
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I would love to know what goes on in the mindset of a fish.

I have one harlequin who takes possession of the middle third of the tank for the duration of the afternoon and sends every intruder well out of range. Some of the male tetras appear to tease and seem to try sneaking in to the area when another is being chased, checking for the harlequin's whereabouts before darting into the space, only to be chased out of it seconds later by the harlequin who seems increasingly angry.

This afternoon, the harlequin has taken a dislike to the wound-prone female tetra who normally takes possession of the adjacent third of the tank to the right but who is quite happy to share this area with one of the male tetras and the smallest harlequin (while everyone else is confined to the remaining third of the tank). The harlequin is not only forbidding anyone to enter his usual territory but is terrorising the wound-prone female tetra out of hers. The smallest harlequin is allowed to stay there and the other female tetra (who has uncharacteristically moved from her current usual spot on the extreme left of the tank to be in the wound-prone female tetra's spot) is allowed to stay there. The wound-prone female tetra's male friend and this territorial harlequin are involved in a series of heavy spats - I admire the male tetra's loyalty towards his companion. Oooh, would I love to know what this is all about, though...  ;D

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« Reply #917 on: November 09, 2017, 09:06:37 PM »
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Note to self: be more careful when checking the catappa leaf as the snail's colouring must be similar! Did a water change a day earlier than usual and discarded the decomposing catappa leaf after checking both sides (or so I thought). Clink as it hit the bottom of the bucket. Poor snail was asleep and attached to it. :yikes: Maybe just as well that I didn't chuck it in on the top of the water, otherwise I wouldn't have heard the clink...

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« Reply #918 on: November 09, 2017, 09:38:25 PM »
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I have several nerite snails of different species. I have two of one type, and I must have a male and female because if they are in the same tank there are soon hundreds of eggs everywhere. So one is in my betta's tank, the other is in my community tank.
I have a slight algae problem in the betta's tank and the nerite is slowly vanishing under a carpet of algae on its shell.
I did my weekly water changes this afternoon and spotted the other one of them in a very convenient position in the big tank, so I swapped them. Within a minute, the algae covered snail had two shrimps climbing all over it. I'm hoping they can clean it up for me as scraping the algae with my finger nail does not remove it.

If I hadn't been in the middle of a water change with wet hands I would have taken a photo but by the time I could take a photo the snail and its cleaners had vanished into the undergrowth  :(

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« Reply #919 on: November 09, 2017, 09:49:37 PM »
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Anyone heard of "red chillies" shrimp? My LFS has them and they appear to be just like RCS but i can find no information on them? Same price, so im getting them on Saturday, just getting your thoughts

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« Reply #920 on: November 09, 2017, 09:54:46 PM »
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I have heard of red rili shrimps. Are they what the shop means?
http://www.planetinverts.com/Rili%20Shrimp.html

Rilis were developed from red cherries by selective breeding so they are bit more delicate than cherries.

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« Reply #921 on: November 10, 2017, 06:51:49 AM »
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I have heard of red rili shrimps. Are they what the shop means?
I think so as they sold their last RCS and probably autocorrect corrected rilli but if they are almost like cherries (they are the same price) im going to get 10 so I can start with a healthy population

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« Reply #922 on: November 10, 2017, 07:29:59 AM »
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The rili look to have a white section on the body... either way I doubt they are going to need any specialist care if they are neocardinia looking shrimp  :)

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #923 on: November 10, 2017, 11:01:58 AM »
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Another change of plan.... white rilli or black carbon shrimp?

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« Reply #924 on: November 10, 2017, 11:29:37 AM »
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A quick Google hasn't flagged up any particular issues with black carbons. Just dont mix then as you'll likely just end up with different shades of brown!

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« Reply #925 on: November 10, 2017, 12:21:32 PM »
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One thing to bear in mind is that all cherry shrimps of every colour are descended from brown wild shrimps. The first colour to be developed by selective breeding were red cherry shrimps. All the other colours were made by selectively breeding these red shrimps.
The more selectively bred a creature is the more likely it is to be delicate. So blue, orange, rili etc will be more delicate than red cherry shrimps. But it is impossible to say how much more delicate they are.
And because they are all Neocaridina heteropoda, as Matt said they will breed to give original wild brown coloured offspring. So whatever you go for, just that one type and no other.

It is possible to mix shrimps of different species provided their requirements are the same. For example, red cherry shrimps and crystal red shrimps do not like the same conditions and should not be kept together.

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« Reply #926 on: November 10, 2017, 02:45:12 PM »
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Thanks, but i was asking your opinion on which one to get XD

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« Reply #927 on: November 10, 2017, 02:58:45 PM »
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Whichever one you prefer the looks of  :) Something like this is all down to personal preference.  The only reason I have red cherry shrimps is because when I got mine that's all the local shops stocked and I didn't want to buy them on-line.

But something to bear in mind - if you have a black substrate, think about whether black shrimps would show against it. You say you want pygmy cories in the same tank - they are shades of grey, would black shrimps be too much the same?
This is what I mean by personal preference - if I had black substrate and intended getting grey fish I would want brightly coloured shrimps. Other people like the idea of a monochrome tank and will only have black and white fish.

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« Reply #928 on: November 10, 2017, 04:20:41 PM »
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In that case rili looks the nicest to me.
 You'll see them easier in the tank like Sue says.

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« Reply #929 on: November 10, 2017, 04:30:48 PM »
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Just a thought... you could do a new thread and add a poll to gain people's views...?

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« Reply #930 on: November 10, 2017, 06:15:40 PM »
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I like all shrimp. I think Sue has made a good point about the colour of the subsrate.

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« Reply #931 on: November 10, 2017, 09:05:48 PM »
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Ive decided just ti get the corydoras tomorrow and wait until the rcs are available again, as they are the cheapest and easiest shrimp to keep----- best for me :P

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« Reply #932 on: November 16, 2017, 10:47:45 PM »
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The advantage of an x-ray tetra is that you can see some of what's going on in their bodies. One of mine has developed a growth above the spine this week - it had a small red blob on it yesterday which has disappeared today but it's elongated today. It definitely looks entirely internal rather than an external wound - so I'll just have to monitor the situation.

A harlequin rasbora, who lost a scale in his/her dark patch, has had that area expand today, with the pink dot becoming much larger and actually deeper and slightly raw.

Meanwhile, the wound-prone tetra is looking better than ever, with her scars barely noticeable.

The snail seems to spend 95% of the time asleep in recent weeks - it's as though he's started a winter hibernation.


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« Reply #933 on: November 18, 2017, 06:30:19 PM »
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A positive ammonium test this week, for the first time in 3 years - 0.1 or 0.2. The tank clean was done on the 8th day as last week's had been done a day earlier than usual. However, this wouldn't have accounted for it. The culprit was soon identified - I'd done such a good job of hiding the snail food from the fish, and the snail had been sleeping most of the week, that it had been decomposing in his little clay pot. I put some fresh food in yesterday and see that he's buried himself among it. If he doesn't move off it overnight, I'm going to move him so that I can dispose of what's left of his food - certainly don't want another occurrence of ammonia!

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