Think Fish Keepers Daily News. [2016-2019]

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #120 on: July 05, 2016, 08:47:11 PM »
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Keep vacuuming the gravel to remove food for the snails and to hoover up the really tiny ones.  :isay:

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #121 on: July 05, 2016, 09:29:59 PM »
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That's why I am getting ONE Assassin Snail

It's not come to that yet but I know it's an option Haha.

Keep vacuuming the gravel  to remove good for the snails and to Hoover up the really tiny ones.  :isay:

Yeah I thought this too. It also occurred to me that there are most likely snails in my filter now... Not much I can do about that though until it's time to swish out the filter sponges.

In other news, I no longer have 22 neons... It's 20 plus 2 cardinals... Two of them definitely have red bands from tail to mouth instead of just the back half being red. Is this a problem? Should I get more cardinals? They seem perfectly happy with the rest of the neon shoal...

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« Reply #122 on: July 05, 2016, 09:32:31 PM »
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Since neons and cardinals are in the same genus, they are closely related enough to shoal together. Ideally you would get a few more cardinals, but since they are such similar fish you probably don't want to do that. I'd be inclined to keep them as they are.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #123 on: July 05, 2016, 10:22:45 PM »
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I find cardinals much nicer than neons

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« Reply #124 on: July 06, 2016, 09:32:43 AM »
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Of the three Paracheirodons available to us, I prefer green neons aka false neons, Paracheirodon simulans. But they are smaller and more delicate - I think they are all wild caught unlike neons which are farmed.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #125 on: July 06, 2016, 03:44:36 PM »
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Hmmm - why do I find that LFSs in the countryside round here have a tendency to be very lazy in terms of tank maintenance, labelling of fish, keeping (non-livestock) stock clean and dust-free? Unlikely to attract prospective fishkeepers into the hobby and hardly setting an example of how fish should be cared for.
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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #126 on: July 06, 2016, 06:36:25 PM »
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Hmmm - why do I find that LFSs in the countryside round here have a tendency to be very lazy in terms of tank maintenance, labelling of fish, keeping (non-livestock) stock clean and dust-free? Unlikely to attract prospective fishkeepers into the hobby and hardly setting an example of how fish should be cared for.
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Laziness...

You'd imagine the Aquarium vendor business is quite specialist so it's tough to turn a healthy profit... So you would make every effort to make a good impression?? At least that's the way I would absolutely treat it. At the very least for the health of the fish...

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #127 on: July 06, 2016, 09:40:27 PM »
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You'd imagine the Aquarium vendor business is quite specialist so it's tough to turn a healthy profit... So you would make every effort to make a good impression?? At least that's the way I would absolutely treat it. At the very least for the health of the fish...
One aspect of LFSs which I've noticed over many years of fishkeeping is that they actually don't seem to be in it for a profit - often, when I've gone in for advice about what item to buy or which medication to choose, far more often than not, I've been dissuaded out of buying a product or been given advice on how to do something more cheaply than I was planning. I do appreciate this very much, and it means I put great faith in them, but don't know any other type of shop besides LFSs which operates like this. I agree, though, that you'd think they ought to make a good impression and/or have the welfare of the fish as paramount - not least for its intrinsic satisfaction, pride of set-up, etc, if profit isn't a main motivator.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #128 on: July 06, 2016, 09:51:57 PM »
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It must be incredibly difficult to make it work, as if not there would be more fish shops... It's a shame my only local vendor is a P@H... I'm a 20 minute drive to my independent LFS.

Sidenote, I actually have 3 cardinal tetras. i have to agree their colouring seems more vivid and bright tan the neons. @apache6467 I think it was you who commented on preferring cardinals?

I reckon after I boost the Harlequins shoal I will go for cardinals after that. The cherry barbs are nice but I'm not feeling the need to boost their numbers. Perhaps the next time I see a shoal of them at my LFS I'll change my mind  :)

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« Reply #129 on: July 07, 2016, 07:49:33 AM »
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I suppose the trouble with being a fish shop is that you need a lot of expensive infrastructure to keep fish, which then sell for a few quid each (mostly). Fish keeping hardware isn't a fast turnover (unless Donna is one of your customers :))) and about the only consumables are fish food. Add to that the lease of the premises and the wages of the staff and I can't see how they manage to survive at all. I suppose that's why most fish shops are either MA or P@H. Sad really, but that's the modern way.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #130 on: July 07, 2016, 08:23:33 AM »
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I'm lucky enough to have two independent LFS within 20 min drive, as well as MA & P@H even closer.
Both independent LFS also deal with reptiles and some amphibians, which are far more expensive than the sort of fish routinely found in stores. Perhaps that helps. Perhaps my shopping/spending there helps too  ;D  but compared to the cost of marine and reptile set ups and stock, I don't think I'm their biggest spending customer.
I always go to the one independent store or MA whenever I need anything. The staff at the independent store, well, the ones who work downstairs are obsessed with fish, the ones that work upstairs are obsessed with reptiles. They would much rather spend time looking after the livestock than the store, and would rather talk fish/reptiles with customers than pretty much anything else. That store isn't as fancy as perhaps an MA, it is on an industrial estate rather than in a garden centre, inside it looks more like a warehouse than a shop, but they do manage to keep things quite well presented.
I do get the feeling that with most LFS the staff are there to be with the fish rather than run a business or pursue a career in retail.

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« Reply #131 on: July 07, 2016, 10:06:18 AM »
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There is a small shop not too near me (half an hour drive) that looks a mess. There is decor and gravel in every tank and the decor is covered with algae. In order to catch fish they have to lift the decor out of the tank.
But the fish from this shop are very healthy, possibly because they quarantine all their fish for 2 weeks after delivery. And the fish are not kept in bare sterile-looking tanks. If they were nearer and had a bigger variety of fish I'd get all my fish from there.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #132 on: July 07, 2016, 12:50:53 PM »
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There is a p@h at a big shopping centre(merry hill) and a shop called two by two. both are a bit pricy. the other 3 in my area are cheap-ish but one nearest and on my round is the best. very knowledgeable. getting 2 julii corys tonight total 4!

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #133 on: July 07, 2016, 02:22:32 PM »
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There is a p@h at a big shopping centre(merry hill) and a shop called two by two. both are a bit pricy. the other 3 in my area are cheap-ish but one nearest and on my round is the best. very knowledgeable. getting 2 julii corys tonight total 4!

I suppose that's an advantage of living near civilisation - if B'rum can be called civilised. :))
Out here in the middle of nowhere the specialist shops are all farm machinery and builders merchants. I can nip down the road and buy a chainsaw and a cattle trough any time I like.... so there! HA! ::)

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #134 on: July 07, 2016, 03:04:07 PM »
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So chuffed at how the tank is now ie fish back to their old selves and seem quite happy with the new layout of the tank, although it has caused tetras to gather at one end and harlies at the other.  No-one flinches at all when the light is switched on.
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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #135 on: July 07, 2016, 03:37:02 PM »
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Congratulations.  :cheers:

Glad to hear that everything has settled down.

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #136 on: July 08, 2016, 09:22:05 AM »
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@Paddyc if I feel the population of MTS in the shrimpery is getting too large I chuck an assassin in there for a couple of weeks. I can always send you one if you get overwhelmed.

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« Reply #137 on: July 08, 2016, 11:23:06 AM »
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I can always send you one if you get overwhelmed.
Oh i need one. That might be useful. how many u got?

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #138 on: July 08, 2016, 11:29:13 AM »
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@Paddyc if I feel the population of MTS in the shrimpery is getting too large I chuck an assassin in there for a couple of weeks. I can always send you one if you get overwhelmed.

I'm good for the moment, Fiona, very kind of you as always, thank you for the offer.

Incidentally, the adult ones (the original ones) are bloody enormous now! I flicked on the living room light two nights ago after the tank had been dark for about an hour, there they were up on the glass! About half the length of my thumb!!!

They are a great addition to my tank, I will never be without them now. But eventually I reckon I'll need some population control  8)

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« Reply #139 on: July 08, 2016, 11:53:00 AM »
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The babies are miniscule and you'll be bound to hoover a load up when you do tank maintenance. This might seem heartless but I always scald the dregs in the bottom of the bucket to kill off any teeny snails before I pour it down the drain. After I've checked for shrimplets first. I don't want to be responsible for loosing MTS into our waterways even though I know they'd be unlikely to survive the winter.

 


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