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Offline Fiona

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Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« on: June 11, 2016, 09:30:09 PM »
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If you just want to say something about your fish or tank and there's no thread and you don't want to start one because it's just chat.....say it here.

We really want to know :)

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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2016, 09:54:24 AM »
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Good plan.

The fish and plants are looking good in my tank after I've started my DIY CO2 injection. I'll do a proper write up in it's own thread after a few weeks - but the tank has stabilised at a pH of 6.6

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2016, 11:30:04 AM »
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I think I've been really lucky with my 2 mystery gouramis and I think I might have a pair. The colours in the largest one has really intensified and he displays at the smaller one when it passes him. I'm not sure if its because the tiddler is a female or another male, I guess in a few weeks when it grows a bit (if it gets any bigger) then I'll know.

The big ones fins are rainbow coloured, even the long ones at the front (what the heck do you call those?) and they look amazing when he flares. I wish I could get a photo to show you all, not least because I still haven't identified the species, he'll still amazingly camera shy.

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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2016, 11:43:38 AM »
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even the long ones at the front (what the heck do you call those?)

I call them feelers  :) They're actually modified pelvic fins.

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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2016, 11:56:21 AM »
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Ah thankee Sue :)

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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2016, 12:36:26 PM »
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I used to be able to get my honey gourami to "wave" at me with its feelers by wiggling my finger near the glass  :wave:

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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2016, 12:41:11 PM »
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I must confess I do waggle my fingers at them, the big one is particularly fascinated. He kind of hovers and oggles while I waggle  ;D

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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2016, 02:33:23 PM »
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He kind of hovers and oggles while I waggle  ;D

Well,....errrrr...... there's a joke in there, somewhere. ;)

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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2016, 02:45:57 PM »
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You obviously didnt try hard enough Colin  ;D

I've been having a problem with pest snails in my shrimpery after having the not so genius idea of letting them breed in there to feed the puffers. The little blighters have been chowing down on my frogbit which has been annoying. I couldn't put assassins in there because of the MTS so I've been picking them out by hand and it seems to be working. I've got into the habit of checking the underside of the frogbit and picking off the tiddlers I find there. Its actually quite relaxing, much to my surprise today the underside of the frogbit is covered with what can only be pygmy cory eggs! So who knows, as I don't have any other fish in there and pygmys apparently don't eat their eggs or fry, I might end up with some babies.  :)

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2016, 11:04:20 PM »
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Well I've been a tad worried about my newest mystery gourami as its had this pale patch which is a bit lower than the scales on the rest of it's body and the patch has got bigger. Sooooo this has involved shifting the young apple snails to a new home and starting a course of eSHa 2000 in the QT. Hopefully it'll work.

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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2016, 06:44:43 PM »
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We went to another garden centre this afternoon, the one with the aquatics department where I got my sand from. They've stopped selling it  >:( All they had were small bags of Aqua One gravel and Unipac silver sand.

So when we got back I spent an hour washing the sand I removed from the 180 litre.

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2016, 08:11:48 PM »
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As I look at the tank above the top of the laptop, I see, from left to right:
* one harley and one tetra, admiring their own reflections near the one light that they accept (ie the table lamp adjacent to the tank), with Serena swooping in to upset proceedings;
* the 3 musketeers (harlies) nudging forward from their respective spots, resembling Chess manoeuvres;
* Venus foraging beneath the wood/branches for leftover food;
* Wee Harley and Little Harley moving up into the tallest plants where they like to seek refuge and tranquillity;
* one one of the 3 musketeers now zooming with determination around the tank, pushing a tetra out of his way;
* some tetras, and now also harlies, trying and testing different locations in the tank, in order to "wind down" for the evening...

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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2016, 09:13:26 PM »
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Well the pale patch must have been a bacterial infection as with eSHa 2000 added it's now a third of the size it was...the patch not the fish.

Also had a peek in the shrimpery and the pygmy cory egg attached to the wall of the tank actually has something teeny wiggling around in it. It will be absolutely tiny if it does successfully hatch!

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2016, 09:19:35 PM »
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Well the pale patch must have been a bacterial infection as with eSHa 2000 added it's now a third of the size it was...the patch not the fish.

Also had a peek in the shrimpery and the pygmy cory egg attached to the wall of the tank actually has something teeny wiggling around in it. It will be absolutely tiny if it does successfully hatch!

Sounds like the drugs work! Fingers crossed for a full speedy recovery...  And yes, good to hear the fishy itself hasn't shrunk...

What else is in the shrimpery with the egg? Are the parents there? I can't remember off the top of my head what you have...  :o

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2016, 09:41:10 PM »
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Baby pygmy cory, it probably doesn't get much smaller than that. So cute.  :)

I have "lost" all my peppered cory that hatched (stern look towards the female v. platy).
Eggs still appearing on a regular basis, but assuming that they will go the same way, if not eaten by the cory first.

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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2016, 09:44:43 PM »
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Be warned! Pygmy cory fry when newly hatched look look little scuttling black bugs. I once found a whole load on the sand in my tank so I hoovered them up only to find out what they were when I used a magnifying glass. Newly hatched pygmy cory fry don't cope well with being hoovered up  :'(

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2016, 02:37:30 PM »
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still waiting on my panda eggs to hatch. only 3 left now out of 8.
best of luck with the pygmy cory eggs!

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2016, 03:57:12 PM »
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random question: I have tetra active substrate. It's inert, small, brown - and very light. How will panda cories adapt to this? Sifting through it should be fine for them because it's so light (it's a wonder it sinks), but the particles aren't as small as fine gravel (didn't want fish choking on it!) and nowhere near as fine as sand. Google images of it - will panda cories be fine with this?

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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2016, 05:48:49 PM »
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I'd have thought that the cory will just rummage between the particles, but the more experienced keepers will have a better idea.

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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2016, 05:59:02 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2016, 06:01:14 PM »
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Marvellous - thanks @Paddyc  :cheers:

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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2016, 06:13:05 PM »
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Marvellous - thanks @Paddyc  :cheers:

Nae bother  8)

Today my quarantine tank nitrites are definite still quite high. I had to use dilution to ensure it wasn't close to 15ppm as the undiluted dose was very "Smoke on the Water" if you get my meaning.... :rotfl:

The diluted dose returned a 2-3ppm reading so worst case scenario I have maybe 10ppm max, erring on the side of caution. It was nowhere near the 5ppm so I'm satisfied the cycle is no longer stalled.

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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2016, 07:04:31 PM »
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random question: I have tetra active substrate. It's inert, small, brown - and very light. How will panda cories adapt to this? Sifting through it should be fine for them because it's so light (it's a wonder it sinks), but the particles aren't as small as fine gravel (didn't want fish choking on it!) and nowhere near as fine as sand. Google images of it - will panda cories be fine with this?
If it isn't sharp to the touch, then it's less likely to wear the barbels down. Richard W posted recently about his views/findings that his cories never had problems with gravel - best have a look for that thread, just to be sure I haven't misquoted him. As for fish choking, generally, most people will reassure you that it's unlikely to happen butalthough I did have a couple of goldfish who were prone to swallowing the substrate and choking on it and I ended up opting for a barebottom tank ultimately.

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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2016, 07:10:51 PM »
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Harlequins provided a gentle reminder that I'd completely forgotten to feed any chopped pea to the tank this week.  A 1cm thread of poo coming from the vent of one of them was a subtle hint.

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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2016, 08:25:37 PM »
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Harlequins provided a gentle reminder that I'd completely forgotten to feed any chopped pea to the tank this week.  A 1cm thread of poo coming from the vent of one of them was a subtle hint.

Oh that reminds me @fcmf, I fed my community a couple of chopped up peas the other day! They looked a bit puzzled at first, most probably due to the colour of it and because it was sinking much faster than the micropellets do... But everyone seemed to love the unexpected treat  8) 8)

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« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2016, 09:13:58 PM »
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Oh that reminds me @fcmf, I fed my community a couple of chopped up peas the other day! They looked a bit puzzled at first, most probably due to the colour of it and because it was sinking much faster than the micropellets do... But everyone seemed to love the unexpected treat  8) 8)
Great, @Paddyc  :cheers:

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Re: Think Fish Keepers Daily News.
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2016, 01:22:15 PM »
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They mystery gourami is completely cure now, I'll leave the meds in until I do a water change on Saturday just to be sure. When I first put this fish in the tank she followed the big round round for a few days and then he started following her (I'm pretty sure its a her). She has the stripes but she doesn't have the amazing colours he does and she doesn't display. Its quite funny because he kind of tilts on his side with his fins wide open and I swear the colours intensify for that period. Its a real "HEY LOOK AT ME I ALL MY GORGEOUSNESS" moment  :)

The pygmy cory egg that looked ready to hatch appears to have done so and I think I saw a fry, there was something on a java fern leaf and I gave it a very gentle nudge with a skewer and it zipped off. There's only shrimp and pygmy cories in there so who knows ......

I don't hoover the floor in the shrimpery as I'm taking a leaf out of Richards book and I'm going to let the poop feed the plants, so there won't be an hoovering upsets.

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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2016, 02:02:11 PM »
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Its quite funny because he kind of tilts on his side with his fins wide open and I swear the colours intensify for that period. Its a real "HEY LOOK AT ME I ALL MY GORGEOUSNESS" moment  :)

MrsB calls that "willy waving" ::)

Glad all's well in the tank.

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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2016, 02:25:34 PM »
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Its quite funny because he kind of tilts on his side with his fins wide open and I swear the colours intensify for that period. Its a real "HEY LOOK AT ME I ALL MY GORGEOUSNESS" moment  :)

The pygmy cory egg that looked ready to hatch appears to have done so and I think I saw a fry, there was something on a java fern leaf and I gave it a very gentle nudge with a skewer and it zipped off. There's only shrimp and pygmy cories in there so who knows ......

I don't hoover the floor in the shrimpery as I'm taking a leaf out of Richards book and I'm going to let the poop feed the plants, so there won't be an hoovering upsets.

The first part made me laugh  :rotfl:

Keep us posted on the progress of the fry, how great would it be if it made it to adolescence and adulthood!  8)

Wee update on my QT from yesterday...

As I said yesterday my nitrite reading was still quite high (somewhere between 5 and 10ppm) and today I can confirm the cycle is definitely no longer stalled (given that I replaced half the tank water and then got up to 10ppm nitrite I'd bet it was).

Th nitrite reading is between 0.5 and 1.0ppm today. I'll do another 3ppm ammonia dose this evening (to give the nitrite level a few more hours to come closer to zero, then it's on to 48 hour tests.

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« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2016, 05:46:41 PM »
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my nitrite reading was still quite high (somewhere between 5 and 10ppm)

I'd call myself blessed if my nitrates were that low  ::)

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« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2016, 05:49:47 PM »
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my Nitrite reading was still quite high (somewhere between 5 and 10ppm)

I'd call myself blessed if my nitrates were that low  ::)

Ummmm....  ???

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« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2016, 06:02:54 PM »
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my Nitrite reading was still quite high (somewhere between 5 and 10ppm)

I'd call myself blessed if my nitrates were that low  ::)

Ummmm....  ???

DOH!!!!  :))

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« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2016, 06:36:22 PM »
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 :rotfl:

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« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2016, 08:54:54 PM »
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Glad I popped in for that one.
Brilliant.

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« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2016, 11:21:09 PM »
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Hooray, photos. We're doing well on pictures today.

I have now realised that I am going mad as far as fish are concerned. I've previously admitted to talking to my fish, but I have just found myself saying "hello pandas" when looking at Apache's photos. Doh.  :-[

I like the tanks and congratulations again on the eggs.
Any chance of a close up of the whiptail, whenever you have time? This is a bit like me asking Paddy for a picture of his bristlenose plec before I got one. Unfortunately I don't think I've got space for a whiptail, they are just something I like the look of, so just going to have to look at your fish instead of getting my own. Hope you don't mind. :)

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« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2016, 06:56:28 AM »
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He is very shy but I will try. Hoping to get up to 4 more rineloricaria falax!

Hooray, photos. We're doing well on pictures today.

I have now realised that I am going mad as far as fish are concerned. I've previously admitted to talking to my fish, but I have just found myself saying "hello pandas" when looking at Apache's photos. Doh.  :-[

I like the tanks and congratulations again on the eggs.
Any chance of a close up of the whiptail, whenever you have time? This is a bit like me asking Paddy for a picture of his bristlenose plec before I got one. Unfortunately I don't think I've got space for a whiptail, they are just something I like the look of, so just going to have to look at your fish instead of getting my own. Hope you don't mind. :)

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 :cheers: for loving my pics

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« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2016, 07:39:43 AM »
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Mr whippy* is very shy as is Venus**

*my whiptails name
** my orange venuzwalian Cory's name

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« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2016, 09:42:55 AM »
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Love the names you've given to your fish.
Hope to see pics of Mr Whippy when he gets a bit more adventurous.  :)

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« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2016, 11:16:56 AM »
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Thanks Littlefish  :)) i tried this morning and he vanished

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DOH!!!!  :))
I have now realised that I am going mad as far as fish are concerned. I've previously admitted to talking to my fish, but I have just found myself saying "hello pandas" when looking at Apache's photos. Doh.  :-[


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« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2016, 12:25:57 PM »
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I have just done a water change on the two kitchen tanks - and discovered I forgot to plug the heater back in for the 50 litre last water change (6 days ago)  :o Luckily it is not mid winter so the temp had only dropped to 21o

I also redid the plants in the betta's tank. I found an old piece of holey rock in the storage box so he now has a half terracotta plantpot with java fern on it; a piece of wood with java fern and anubias; and a holey rock with hornwort pushed through the holes. I also moved things around so the taller plant (hornwort) is at the back. The betta is now exploring his re-arranged tank.

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« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2016, 09:37:37 PM »
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I'm sure his day will be more interesting for it  :)

I actually saw a pygmy cory fry today, it was all tail and whiskers and about 4mm in length, my son's gf was around at the time and she reckons she spied another. They seem to be living under the short grass I have at the front of the tank and invisible against the black substrate unless they move. I'm well chuffed, hopefully some will make adulthood.

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« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2016, 09:49:05 PM »
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Congratulations on the pygmy cory fry.  :cheers:

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« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2016, 07:22:17 AM »
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Congratulations on the fry Fiona!  :cheers:

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« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2016, 07:50:51 AM »
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Congrats :cheers:
Hatched quicker than mine, got no fry yet :o

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« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2016, 10:10:50 AM »
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I had some pygmy cories breed a few years ago, and if Fiona's fry is 4 mm, it is not newly hatched. A newly hatched fry is more like 1 mm. I suspect they've been breeding for longer than you think, it's just that the eggs were somewhere you didn't see them.

The 4 mm fry - does it have horizontal or vertical stripes? Newly hatched pygmy cory fry have vertical stripes. It took just 2 days for my fry to change from vertical to horizontal stripes. But I have no idea how old they were when this happened as I didn't make a note  :-\

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« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2016, 10:28:51 AM »
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it is not newly hatched.

I suspected that myself, its a lot bigger then the one I spotted on the java fern which was more like 1mm. I can't remember if it was banded or striped  ??? There's eggs all over the tank and the 10 or so that were under the frogbit have all gone. I hope they don't all survive, I'll be swimming in pygmy cories at this rate.

I'm not actually putting food in for the fry, they're living on whatever they can find but I suspect the Bacter AE is helping, I know the shrimp eat it.

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Congrats! :cheers: 

Looking forward to the updates.

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After 48 hours the QT tank has double Zeros for Ammonia and Nitrite. Progress to 24 hour testing now  :D

The only thing is I have no plans to do anything with the tank for now so I will be feeding the filters using ammonia once the cycle is complete....... I wonder if the missus would let me at least get some fish to put in there. I'm definitely not keen on splitting up my community!!  :(

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