The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid Guarding Her Eggs

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2015, 01:19:35 PM »
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Lovely video, it shows the behaviour very nicely. She is chasing away some tiger barbs that are much bigger than she is.

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2015, 07:31:42 PM »
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What a great quality video and music.  The tank and fish are beautiful too.

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 07:36:29 PM »
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Thank you for the kind words.

I hope The Duchess manages to fight off the attackers for the next few days, I reckon she's lost almost half of her eggs so far.  :-\

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 07:40:08 PM »
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Don't forget the mother would have eaten any eggs that were infertile or became fungused. But that won't account for half of the total  :(

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 07:48:37 PM »
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Yeah, even accounting for her eating some, I think she's got a hard battle ahead.

She's a lot more aggressive today even, and sticking right to the side of the coconut shell shielding the eggs with her flanks.

I'm so impressed by her tenacity and courage! I really hope she's rewarded with a few surviving offspring.

I've started with the Liquifry drops today so we're all remaining positive. :)

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2015, 09:37:06 PM »
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Beautiful tank and fish, good luck with the fry. :cheers:

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2015, 07:35:28 AM »
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Thanks Anne.  :cheers:

Oh dear, I just checked the nest and there are only four eggs left. :(

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2015, 08:19:39 PM »
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The Duchess has just spawned again.  :cheers:

This time I've partially blocked off the entrance to her coconut nest, so she should find it much easier to guard and fend off any attacks.

The only thing is, I don't know when she spawned so, I'm concerned that the male hasn't gone and fertilised the eggs yet.
I hope I haven't made it so he won't complete his part in the process.

Another interesting few days ahead ... :)

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2015, 09:09:13 PM »
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I gave my cockatoos a selection of 'caves' and found that they usually chose the one with the smallest entrance, though one female did go for a hollow at the top of a tall piece of wood. So making the entrance smaller fits in with that.

The only safe way to see them breed and watch the parental behaviour though is a separate tank. When I did that I knew from previous experience that the male in question was an incorrigible egg eater so I had to remove him once he'd done his bit leaving the female alone with her eggs.

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2015, 11:09:15 PM »
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I don't expect success, but feel responsible for ensuring the best chance of success, if at all possible.

I don't specifically want to breed the species, and dont really have the room to set up a breeding tank.

The QT tank might end up being a breeding tank for one brood though, in future, just because I do feel that after all her effort she deserves some success.

Maybe she'll have some luck in the community tank, all by herself though ... Fingers crossed. :)

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2015, 11:30:50 AM »
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I had to do some fish shuffling to give the 60 litre to the apistos  :) Then it was all for nothing when the tank started to leak. I suppose it could have been worse, the 60 litre could have been full of fish instead of just the female apisto and fry. The female had to go back in the 125 litre and the fry into the QT. Once I replaced the tank I never tried breeding them again.

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2015, 01:58:48 PM »
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...Once I replaced the tank I never tried breeding them again.

Do they spawn in your community tank? If so, what do you do when they do, just let nature take it course presumably?

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2015, 02:01:42 PM »
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I've had both Apistogramma cacatuoides and A borelli spawn several times in my community tank over the years. Apart from that one occasion when I set up the 60 litre for them, the eggs or fry have always been eaten.

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2015, 02:06:11 PM »
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... the eggs or fry have always been eaten.

It seems a shame but it has to be the most likely outcome and the one I'm prepared for.

I guess fish aren't as sentimental as humans and they don't see their failures as something to mourn.

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2015, 09:51:42 AM »
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There are perhaps 15 or 20 eggs left this morning, and I'm certain she ate them this time.

Oh well. She's only young, plenty of time to get it right one day.

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2015, 10:46:26 AM »
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American cichlids do have the reputation for eating their own eggs the first few times. One theory put forward is that they need to have been brought up by their mother to know how to be good parents themselves. Most commercially raised fish (ie those on sale in shops) are removed as eggs and reared away from their mother. They have to learn how to be parents by trial and error.

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2015, 05:06:07 PM »
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Hopefully in a couple of weeks she'll go for third time lucky.

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2015, 09:04:33 AM »
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Before work this morning Duke and The Duchess were both in her coconut nest.

She was rolling over and over and shimmying.

A short while later and he swims away leaving her behind guarding a clutch of eggs.

Hopefully this time, third time lucky.  O:-)

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Re: The Duchess - Female Aggassiz's Dwarf Cichlid guarding her eggs
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2015, 11:07:03 PM »
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I appreciate that it's unlikely the eggs will survive, but it is fascinating watching the behaviour surrounding the spawning and nesting process.

Each time has been slightly different from the last. Some of the new behaviour may well be related to the different tactics I'm employing to try and enable The Duchess to maintain a viable clutch. I'm determined to give her the best chance seeing as she's putting in the maximum amount of effort.

This time I put a largish pebble in the entrance to her nest. This is designed to block access for any Tiger Barbs, whilst still allowing good water flow and visibility.

I came back from work today and had to laugh. The Duchess had managed to place a small pile of fine gravel on top of the pebble. I would love to have seen her spitting pieces of gravel onto her pebble, even more so I'd love to know why she did it.

My wife is convinced she was decorating.
I'm wondering if she was hollowing out the nest to give it some more depth.

Anyway, whatever the reason, whatever the outcome, it's such fun to observe.

I highly recommend a pair of Dwarf Cichlids in a community tank if you have the space.

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