Sometimes I Don't Understand People

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Offline Littlefish

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Sometimes I don't understand people
« on: April 14, 2016, 10:51:40 AM »
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I have just spent some time on the axolotl forum that I frequent and found that a newbie had posted this an hour ago:-
"Just a quick msg my friend put my new gold fish in my axo tank today while i went out for a for min and when i got back the gold fish was gone and there is only one answer where it has gone lol. the question is will my axo get ill from eating a 2inch fish or will it be ok and just not feed him for a few days now"

This was followed, around half an hour ago, by:-
"good news he just brought the fish up "

This was my response:-
"I am assuming that your new goldfish has not survived the encounter. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I think that you may need to explain to your "friend" the responsibility of keeping pets, why it is dangerous to both animals to mix axolotls and fish and why the possible injury or death of either or both animals is no laughing matter. "

Nobody else has responded yet.

Now I admit that I may get quite attached to pets. I also care about other people's pets, including fish, shrimp, snails etc. of people on this forum, will always have a soft spot for Sue's snail number 5 and others, even though I have never met them.
I care for the axolotls, newts, salamanders etc. that I have seen on the other forum, especially Jabba, whose owner has been through a lot in the past month as Jabba transitioned from an aquatic juvenile to a fully terrestrial tiger salamander.
I love the lengths that most people will go to whilst ensuring the correct conditions for their pets, resolving health issues, etc.
I know that everyone is different, but I really can't understand people who think it is funny that their friend has basically fed their new goldfish to their axolotl. The attitude sucks and I feel that it is along the same lines at the LFS owner involved in the unprofessional discuss/piranha incident that Fiona witnessed.
Apologies is this post has upset anyone, but I just needed to get it off my chest and share it with people who I felt would not agree with the way that the goldfish had been treated.
I'm off to look at pictures of happy animals to cheer myself up.


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Re: Sometimes I don't understand people
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2016, 11:16:02 AM »
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I'm not surprised you're upset Donna and not surprised at the owner who lolled about his goldfish, although I am saddened. He was probably a youngster, felt that a fish is just a fish and therefore wasn't bothered that it got eaten. It's an attitude I find appalling, disgusting but sadly too common.

I was brought up to respect all life, regardless of the type or size. When I discovered baby shrimp in the bag with the adults after a trip to MA, I couldn't put them in the main tank because I knew they'd be eaten and it seemed a little unfair. So they went in the quarantine tank until they were big enough to stand a chance of survival. When I clean my tanks, I meticulously go through the bucket rescuing an baby snails or shrimp. I even feel a responsibility to the live food I buy, daphnea and brine shrimp are removed from the bags and stored in large containers with conditioned water and an airstone and fed until I use them. Foolish maybe but I couldn't do any less.

I wonder if that person realises that what his friend did was not only cruel, it is illegal

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Re: Sometimes I don't understand people
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2016, 11:35:00 AM »
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Well said Ladies. Let's hope the remainder of the members respond in a similar fashion. I think we should perhaps draw people's attention to our legal duties with respect to our livestock more often.

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Re: Sometimes I don't understand people
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2016, 11:56:25 AM »
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Another horror is buying bettas just to fight them. I haven't looked myself but I understand there are (or have been) videos on you tube. This is the reason that bettas are not called siamese fighting fish in a lot of places as that name alone encourages those of a certain mentality.

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Re: Sometimes I don't understand people
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2016, 01:00:53 PM »
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I find these sorts of behaviour absolutely abhorrent. Unfortunately, among some people in society, fish seem to be considered further down the scale than other animals, and often goldfish at the bottom of the rung ie among these despicable people, they seem to find it acceptable to treat animals in this way. I would really like to think this would change over time for such a high-developed country ie culturally it will become unacceptable, but sometimes I wonder, especially when I see young children not just chasing but literally terrorising pigeons and their parents/carers seem to find it not only acceptable but amusing. Even among friends and acquaintances who I would have considered like-minded, I have been quite taken aback at casual remarks made about pests (eg household or garden) and quite barbaric/torturous methods tried or suggested to deal with them. I'm like Littlefish; my OH is very much not of that ilk (although he's softening over time) but I've been reassured lately when I've noticed that even he has been horrified at some situations we've discovered/heard/read about.

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Re: Sometimes I don't understand people
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2016, 09:11:35 AM »
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Littlefish, dare I ask what the update to this was?

I've just read with horror about a case of someone getting goldfish and who left them completely neglected in a filter-less tank with no water changes and no food - it's left me really quite shaken.

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Re: Sometimes I don't understand people
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2016, 09:40:02 AM »
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The update on the situation is that a few people have "liked" my comment, but not actually responded.
Yesterday the original axolotl/goldfish owner responded as follows:
"yes the gold fish did not survive and explained to y friend why its not a good idea to put fish with axo "
Another user has responded with the following:
"If someone touched one of my animals/fish/axolotl, and it resulted in it being eaten I'd be p**sed. Sounds like a pleb. Inhumain and inconsiderate"

I have slightly amended one word in the last message. Bearing in mind it is a very global forum, the language used can sometimes be slightly different. The final message was from someone in the UK, but aimed at someone that we know is Australian, with a lot of the others being from the US, so sometimes the UK posters use "American English" to make themselves easier to understand.

The forum is pretty much full of very pleasant people and rarely does anyone get rattled. However, one user has recently been red flagged for inappropriate behaviour (sorry, I'm chuckling already) for threatening to punch another user in their "limp groin" for something along the lines of suggesting that the first person not bother trying to nurse an ill pet back to health because specialist vet fees are expensive and that it would be cheaper to euthanize the amphibian. Obviously the first person was absolutely outraged, and the way they worded the threat of groin punching was on another level of awesome all together, but I guess a threat is a threat, hence the red flag.

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Re: Sometimes I don't understand people
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2016, 11:36:25 AM »
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Hmmmm. I think I'm best not to comment any further - suffice to say that I just can't get my head around how some people treat their pets.

On a lighter note, that's really interesting that people adapt their language in order to make themselves easier to understand on a more global forum - I couldn't bring myself to use American English spellings (although in some cases it has to be done eg official name of an organisation such as World Health Organization) although I could imagine that other words and phrases could easily slip in eg 'local fish store' rather than 'local fish shop'.

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