Snails. Where The Heck Did They Come From?

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Snails. Where the heck did they come from?
« on: October 01, 2014, 08:43:29 PM »
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My son has a 30l tank, it was given to us totally over stocked and in a pretty poor way. We gradually rehomed most of the fish in our larger 125l tank, leaving just a few smaller fish and one nerite snail in the tank.

The tank has been like this now for the past 6 months, and the last fish to be added were 4 dwarf corydoras, about 3 to 4 months ago.

All of a sudden, a couple of days ago I noticed some small spots on the inside of the glass and on closer inspection discovered that they are snails!!!
We don't have live plants in the tank, as far as I'm aware the fish aren't being overfed, with a feed free day once or twice a week, so WHERE on earth did they come from??

I'm scratching my head!!!  ???

P.S. They're not showing much interest in the lettuce that I have put in there to try and catch them!  :-\

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Re: Snails. Where the heck did they come from?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2014, 11:09:40 AM »
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The usual cause is live plants but as there aren't any, that's not the reason here. However, you say you have another tank. Do you have live plants in there, and if so, do you use the same equipment on both tanks? It would be quite easy to transfer snail eggs that way.

If you don't have live plants in your bigger tank, I can only think that they arrived with the tank and have been in hiding since you got it. Assuming you have those tiny ramshorn snails, all you would need is two snails tucked away somewhere and you have enough to start a new population. Since they are hermaphrodites any two snails would do it, you wouldn't need one male and one female. One website reckons that even if you completely strip a tank down you only find 10% of the snails in it.

Cucumber might be a better 'trap' for the snails - and don't forget that whichever veg you use, you have to get up while the room is still in total darkness to find the snails on the veg. One thing you could try is using a screwtop jar for the snail trap. Punch snail sized holes in the lid from outside to inside so the spikey bits stop the snails getting back out. Put your chosen veg inside and leave in the tank overnight. In theory, the jar should be full of snails in the morning. Be careful that the holes aren't big enough for a fish to get through or they'd damage themselves on the spikey bits.

Or you could just leave them there. That's what I do now after several years of trying to eradicate them. They aren't actually bad for the tank, just unsightly.

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Re: Snails. Where the heck did they come from?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2014, 01:11:29 PM »
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They are hardy little things! I've recently restarted a small tank which had been sat empty for about 2 months (but with gravel still in situ) - it had a minor small infestation prior to being shutdown and when I refilled it quite a few snails started mooching about again as if nothing had ever happened!

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Re: Snails. Where the heck did they come from?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2014, 06:39:15 PM »
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I got myself some assassin snails and they're already chowing down on the unwanted snails, a very worthwhile investment :)

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Re: Snails. Where the heck did they come from?
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2014, 06:47:47 PM »
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They might eat the nerite though......

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Re: Snails. Where the heck did they come from?
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2014, 07:55:38 PM »
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Good point Sue I missed that. Apart from the ramshorn, i have 2 other types, one is dark brown and the other has a lighter more mottled shell, all 3 are a nuisance though

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Re: Snails. Where the heck did they come from?
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2014, 11:03:00 PM »
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The usual cause is live plants but as there aren't any, that's not the reason here. However, you say you have another tank. Do you have live plants in there, and if so, do you use the same equipment on both tanks? It would be quite easy to transfer snail eggs that way.

If you don't have live plants in your bigger tank, I can only think that they arrived with the tank and have been in hiding since you got it. Assuming you have those tiny ramshorn snails, all you would need is two snails tucked away somewhere and you have enough to start a new population. Since they are hermaphrodites any two snails would do it, you wouldn't need one male and one female. One website reckons that even if you completely strip a tank down you only find 10% of the snails in it.

Cucumber might be a better 'trap' for the snails - and don't forget that whichever veg you use, you have to get up while the room is still in total darkness to find the snails on the veg. One thing you could try is using a screwtop jar for the snail trap. Punch snail sized holes in the lid from outside to inside so the spikey bits stop the snails getting back out. Put your chosen veg inside and leave in the tank overnight. In theory, the jar should be full of snails in the morning. Be careful that the holes aren't big enough for a fish to get through or they'd damage themselves on the spikey bits.

Or you could just leave them there. That's what I do now after several years of trying to eradicate them. They aren't actually bad for the tank, just unsightly.

Nope, no live plants in either tanks Sue!
The small tank was inherited from a friend's daughter and son in law, and they'd had the tank for about 5 years previous to that! Tis indeed a mystery.
The interesting thing is that I have recently discovered that a friend of mine's daughter has had a mysterious infestation of snails also, in an established tank that has never had any snails in it and they don't have live plants either, with no new fish for almost a year.

The large tank has no sign of snails, but having said that it does have yoyo loach  in situ!

I guess it will forever remain a mystery!  :fishy1


They are hardy little things! I've recently restarted a small tank which had been sat empty for about 2 months (but with gravel still in situ) - it had a minor small infestation prior to being shutdown and when I refilled it quite a few snails started mooching about again as if nothing had ever happened!

Yikes, tough as old boots.

I confess I've been squashing them and letting the fish eat them, there don't seem to be so many in there now, but I dare say there'll be more hiding in there somewhere!

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Re: Snails. Where the heck did they come from?
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2014, 01:35:34 PM »
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Ninja snails! You've discovered a new species  :rotfl:

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Re: Snails. Where the heck did they come from?
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2014, 01:42:44 PM »
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Learn to love your snails! They are a very useful part of your tank ecosystem. I have loads of them, two species, and never have anything to vacuum off the gravel, they make a great clean up crew.

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Re: Snails. Where the heck did they come from?
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2014, 01:50:26 PM »
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My unwanted invaders keep ending up in my filter. I don't mind a few but when you turn the light on and the gravel around my otto feeding stone is covered in snails it's time to do something about it I think. My assassin snails are starting to chow down on them but as I've only got 3 adults atm its going to take a while. I actually find hand picking them out of the tank quite a theraputic past time, then they get chucked in the pond.

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