Modifying My 200l Tank.

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Offline Fiona

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Modifying my 200l tank.
« on: May 23, 2016, 11:49:30 AM »
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I'm very dissatisfied with the look of my 200 litre tank. Soil topped with sand seemed a good idea at the time however it's proving to not be such a great growing medium for my plants. I'd need to keep some sand at the front because one of my stiphs spends his life digging in it.

Do you think it would be possible to remove the sand at the back and replace it with a gravel cap WITHOUT removing the fish?

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Re: Modifying my 200l tank.
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2016, 12:13:41 PM »
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Provided you are very careful, yes.

I find it easier to suck up substrate using just the narrow tube rather than a siphon tube with that wide thing on the end. I think it would be quite easy to remove the sand like that.
Then putting the gravel in, if you use a jug or something similar and tip the gravel out right at the bottom, that shouldn't disturb the fish too much if you do it slowly and gently.

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Re: Modifying my 200l tank.
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2016, 12:26:07 PM »
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I always manage to suck some sand up when I'm cleaning, so I was thinking of using that method to shift the sand, it's good you've confirmed that for me Sue. I just need to do the extreme sides and the back, probably a 4-5inch wide strip should be enough. Most of the fish shift to the opposite side when I'm cleaning. I'll probably get my son to spot for me.

The vallis does ok in the sand but the leafier plants end up looking very spindly, hopefully if the roots get more O2 the plants will grow stronger. Thats the plan anyway. 

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Re: Modifying my 200l tank.
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2016, 12:52:29 PM »
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I was looking at this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AQUARIUM-FISH-TANK-NATURAL-RIVER-GRAVEL-SUBSTRATE-DECOR-SAND-DECORATION-1-2mm-/121816323750?var=&hash=item1c5cd196a6:m:mnJ0GbgocSsOdqB5ST6hScQ

I was thinking 1-2mm gravel would blend better with the sand, would this do the job do you think or should I go for a larger gauge?

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Re: Modifying my 200l tank.
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2016, 05:14:37 PM »
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The gravel in the link looks quite rough. Are you talking bout tank 2 in your signature - that's the one with gobies listed. If it is and your sig is up to date, you have peppered cories listed, and I wouldn't use rough gravel with cories in a tank.

It is possible to get small smooth gravel, I used to have some in my tanks. The photo below is standard aquarium gravel on the left and the gravel I had on the right. The bag says "Betta Aquarium gravel" and the name and address on the bottom of the bag is J & K Aquatics, postcode TA2 8BA. I found J & K aquatics by googling, though it looks like they've moved since I got my bag. However, I think I must have the 1/8 inch gravel. If you could fine something like mine it would be better for cories, if you do indeed have some.

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Re: Modifying my 200l tank.
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2016, 06:56:16 PM »
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TA2 is a Taunton, Somerset, area postcode. I believe J&K now trade under the name of Watermarque. They have two stores, one in Yeovil, and the other in North Petherton. They also do "on-line", but I have never found their website particularly good.

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Re: Modifying my 200l tank.
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2016, 07:26:44 PM »
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I got my gravel from a shop in either North Yorkshire or County Durham - I'm right on the border - but can't remember which shop it was. However it does mean that this gravel is stocked in other shops, and there are certain to be other makes as well that are similar.

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Re: Modifying my 200l tank.
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2016, 09:26:55 PM »
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It is tank 2 in my list and it has cories and stiphs but I was only going to replace the sides and the back with stones, a third of the tank will still be sand. I'll recheck the gravel I listed, I selected it because it looked quite rounded. I'm going to hit the fish shop strip this weekend so I can always buy something then if I cant find anything suitable online.

I'm not rushing into doing this, I'm on half term break next week but it might be best to leave the adjustments until I finish college in 4 weeks. So I'll get everything ready first.

Fish Community Creator Tanks
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