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Offline Puffin

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2014, 11:57:06 AM »
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Sorry it's so blurry!

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2014, 01:05:06 PM »
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I really like it, except for the Ottos. They need to be in bigger groups really, and they need a bit of specialist looking after in the food department. I also object to the way  I've heard that they are caught. The river is cyanided so they get paralised - then they're scooped out by the thousand and die off in the hundreds during transport. See here.

I'd add the Cherry Barbs first (3m:3f) and then leave it for a month. I'd add the Panda Corys last, after six months or so.

p.s. It's not blurry if you click on it and look at the enlarged version.

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Panda Cory (7) - Honey Gourami (3) - Ember Tetra (9) - Lemon Tetra (4) - Cherry Barb (1) - Otocinclus (2) -
Note: The user may not necessarily own these fish, these are tanks that they may be building or researching for stocking purposes


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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2014, 01:20:01 PM »
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That's great, thanks Colin.
No I will avoid the ottos then, not into that at all!
I think all the fish profiles said well planted tank, or didn't specify. Which is what I'm after as I want plants.
So that's next, after the tank arrives.

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2014, 01:25:00 PM »
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Is the filter really oversized external? That looks like a lot of fish for a tank that size ..........

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2014, 01:45:09 PM »
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I don't know Richard, I think someone on here who has one said that's what they use. Can't remember who!
I'll put them through again and change the filter.

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2014, 02:34:37 PM »
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Ok, so with a different filter I would need to reduce the numbers... 7 tetra, 4 Cory, 4 fiveband and 6 cherry barbs.  Or just reduce to 3 cherry barbs and keep the rest the same.

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2014, 03:06:07 PM »
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It's an absolutely huge filter in a Cube40. Its got about the same amount of filtration sponge and 'noodles' as my 1200litre pond filter has - though it doesn't have the flow rate. I use 'oversized external' in my Community Creator and I'm just over 100% stocked with never a hint of ammonia and nitrite, and the sponge (after six months or so) built up enough nitrate eating bugglies to keep my nitrates at 10ppm, which was the same as in my water-change water.

If you are going to reduce numbers, then remove one type of fish entirely so the remaining fish stay in big enough groups.

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
Panda Cory (7) - Honey Gourami (3) - Ember Tetra (9) - Lemon Tetra (4) - Cherry Barb (1) - Otocinclus (2) -
Note: The user may not necessarily own these fish, these are tanks that they may be building or researching for stocking purposes


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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2014, 03:14:49 PM »
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Thanks. I'll see how I get on, and miss out one of the groups if necessary. But with oversize external filter selected its not 100% stocked so am hopeful given your experience. Defo will get those glass thingies though.

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2014, 03:55:12 PM »
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There are a couple of other things to consider :
If the filter is that powerful, does it create a strong current in the tank and if so, will the chosen fish be happy with that?
There is more to overcrowding in a tank than just the chemistry. The fish will be in close contact with each other and so they have to get on OK to avoid stress. Cherry barbs each like to have their own little territory, for example. Planting the tank will help a lot as it gives fish the opportunity to escape from each other when they want a bit of "peace and quiet".
I would suggest putting in the cherry barbs first as they are pretty hardy fish, with maybe five band barbs next. The Otocinclus need some algal growth in the tank so should perhaps be left till last.

I still have tanks planted up 3 months ago but without fish yet as I like the plants to be well established and filling the tank first. It is a bit extreme, I know, but as a general principle being patient when you are establishing the tank will pay off in the long run.

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2014, 04:06:26 PM »
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Thanks both, really useful information and lots to consider.
I'm going to be asking about plants next!
Found another lfs and this one is super professional looking, quite a contrast to tiny,dark,cramped shop down the road. They sell plants, (as well as a lot of fish I've not seen in other shops) and I'm probably going to get some floating plants from them. They also sell some others in plant pots. So first question is, do you keep them in the pots (like you might do in a pond) or can you take them out and plant in the substrate?

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2014, 04:20:52 PM »
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I realise the above might make me sound quite clueless. But I'm finding it a lot more difficult to source / retain info re plants than I am about fish!

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2014, 04:37:51 PM »
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Btw I think I have identified my mystery Cory.
" C. trilneatus: Aquatic plants are not a feature of this species‘ natural waters. " from superfish. Gutted!!

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2014, 05:17:48 PM »
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Aquatic plants are not a feature of the natural habitat of many of our fish, but they will still enjoy being in a planted tank. In nature, many take refuge among dead leaves, tree roots etc and so they still appreciate the cover provided by plants, which also look a lot nicer in your tank than recreating the "natural" look with lots of rotting leaves and wood............ . For Corydoras, just make sure you leave a good sized area of sand/gravel for them to grub around in.
The pots plants come in are usually very small and so you should plant them in the substrate, though you could use larger pots if you wanted to. Plant roots will spread through the substrate and help keep it aerated. Personally, I found potted plants grossly overpriced and so I bought mine loose off EBay and all grew away with no problems.

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2014, 05:21:01 PM »
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Btw I think I have identified my mystery Cory.
" C. trilneatus: Aquatic plants are not a feature of this species‘ natural waters. " from superfish. Gutted!!

Seriously Fish says the same about plants not being a feature of it's natural waters, although it also adds: "Alternatively, it also does well in a more standard, preferably well-planted tank". Just remember to keep the substrate relatively fine and rounded and they should do fine.

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2014, 06:43:58 PM »
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 ???
Seriously fish! Yes that's what I meant! Not super fish. That's a tank make right?!

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2014, 06:48:10 PM »
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Btw I think I have identified my mystery Cory.
" C. trilneatus: Aquatic plants are not a feature of this species‘ natural waters. " from superfish. Gutted!!

Seriously Fish says the same about plants not being a feature of it's natural waters, although it also adds: "Alternatively, it also does well in a more standard, preferably well-planted tank". Just remember to keep the substrate relatively fine and rounded and they should do fine.


Lol so it does!
I should really learn to read the whole article. I just gave up after reading that!

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2014, 08:50:20 PM »
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Seriously fish! Yes that's what I meant! Not super fish. That's a tank make right?!

I thought it was odd that two different websites were quoting the exact same text......... :rotfl:

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Re: Bought a tank!
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2014, 04:24:07 PM »
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Thanks for the earlier advice re the mystery catfish in the local shop btw dbaggie.  I will do that next time I'm in. Went to our local maidenhead aquatics today. Had LOTS of fish!! Found a couple of the ones on my list. Ember tetras were there and were lovely, cherry barbs too. Although I've been advised tank may be too small for them. Several cories, I find I'm not into the albino ones. Do cories prefer to be on substrate the same colour as themselves?
I also found celestial pearl danios. They were very dull compared to pics on here. Is that due to their young age? I hope so and not nutrition or stress.
I'm ruling out ottos as I'm interested in sustainability as well as animal welfare so fish associated with dodgy methods of catching are a no for me.
They also were advertising a bag of their mature filter media for £1. Sounds useful, has anyone else bought this? It would be great if I could get the tank off to a good start when it arrives.

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« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2014, 05:28:32 PM »
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Ember tetras are lovely little fish - you won't get much smaller to be honest - IMO a shoal of these should be fine for your tank.

Yes, the CP Danios will be nothing like their full colour whilst in the shop - shop tanks can be quite stressful environments and this prevents many fish from displaying their full colouration. I got some CPD's at the weekend to add to my existing ones and the difference in colour is really noticeable - their colour will improve as they become settled in the tank. However, it is also the case that females aren't as deep coloured as the males and the picture shown on here is likely to have been taken in ideal conditions.

Its generally advisable to go with relatively natural (stone/sand) or dark substrates - avoid the 'day-glo' pinks, oranges, blues etc as these colours can detract from the fish colours. I have a green substrate as I wanted it to compliment the plant colours, but I've also mixed in some black so that it isn't like a solid green carpet (see pic - although it's actually a darker green than it appears in this pic!).

Not sure on the filter media - it's the bacteria in mature filter media which is important but these will generally die off when taken of the water for any prolonged length of time - how is the filter media stored in the shop?

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« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2014, 06:34:57 PM »
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Hm, not sure. I'm not great at asking questions in shops. Find I forget everything. Anyway all the shops I've been in recently seemed to prefer to let me browse without speaking to me, and I'm happy with that atm.
There was a window showing their filter media in action, and a poster next to it explaining the method, (one agitated tank for ammonia /nitrite eaters, and one still for anaerobic bacteria.) and saying you could buy their media for a quid. The media looked like those pasta wheels!
Lovely looking panda cories, if that's what they are. (?)

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