What To Do With 2nd Tank

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2018, 10:11:27 AM »
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Think I might stick to list and try and reduce it down. With the fish that don't compete well, what would your advice be for those?

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2018, 10:28:13 AM »
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Usually that comment means that some fish are more active and eat all the food before other fish can have a chance; other fish are sedate fish that are slower to get to food, and can be intimidated by the faster swimming, more active fish.

With two tanks, I would try to separate the two types of fish if you would like some of each type - a tank of active, fast swimmers and a tank of sedate pootlers.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2018, 03:28:43 PM »
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You could only have a maximum of 2 rams in a tank that size....

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2018, 04:40:04 PM »
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Well according to Seriously Fish, the only lively fish is the glowlight tetra so that seems that the rest should get on ok.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #54 on: February 18, 2018, 06:16:45 PM »
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Penguin tetra 6+ 8cm
Rosy Tetra 6+ 4cm
Glowlight Tetra 6+ 4cm
Rummynose Tetra 6+ 5cm
Black Widow 6+ 6cm
Black Phantom 8+ 3.6cm
Cardinal Tetra 8+ 3.5cm
Black Neon Tetra 8+ 3.5cm
Silver Tip Tetra 6+ 5cm
X Ray Tetra 6+ 4.5cm
Redpoint Cichlid ?
XL Rosy Tetra 6+ 4cm
Neon Tetra 8+ 3cm
False Julil Cory 4+ 5.5cm
Cherry Barb 6+ 5cm
Lampeye 4cm
Blue Eyed Gertrude Rainbow 8+ 3.5cm
Ember Tetra 8+ 2cm
Diamond Neon Tetra 6+ 6cm
Bronze Cory  4+ 7.5cm
Lemon Tetra 8+ 4cm
Red Phantom Tetra 8+ 3.5cm
Black Phantom Tetra 8+ 3.6cm
Golden Pencilfish group 10+ 3.5cm
Hockeystick Pencilfish
Glass Bloodfin Tetra 6+ 6cm
Panda Cory 6+ 5cm

So this is a list of possible fish. From what I can tell from Seriously Fish they should be ok with each other but wondering what others think? It does say some might get out competed, was wondering if I could keep those in one of my tanks together?

Any thoughts much appreciated.

Is there any fish in this list more suited to a mature tank?

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2018, 07:00:02 PM »
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The cories are all best suited to more mature tanks.

I see you mention in an earlier comment that Seriously Fish only mentions glowlights as being lively - most tetras and pencilfish are fairly lively although SF may not specifically mention this. Others may be able to advise on comparative liveliness of different tetra and pencilfish species, though. Although this is a wonderful range of fish, I would strongly advise on making a shortlist of preferred species and, for shoaling fish such as tetras, increasing the numbers in the shoal.
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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2018, 07:25:27 PM »
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Well how about 8 each of the following?

Lemon Tetra
Ember Tetra
Diamond Tetra
Black Phantom Tetra

Would be 76% full for my tank. I take it that they should all get on.
It's a shame about the corys as would have like some Panda Corys or similar.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2018, 07:28:45 PM »
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They will all show quite similar behaviour. I al2ays try to mixing fish which behave differently to add interest to the tank... how about sparkling gourami for example?

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2018, 07:33:31 PM »
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Cories would still be a possibility. Unless you've given your existing / recently-in-use tank a thorough scrub, there may well be the beneficial micro-organisms/biofilm on the inside surfaces. If that is the case (ie it's not been scrubbed clean), then the cories might be fine in that tank - definitely better in it than in a pristine new one.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2018, 07:39:50 PM »
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They will all show quite similar behaviour. I al2ays try to mixing fish which behave differently to add interest to the tank... how about sparkling gourami for example?

Don't think any of my local shops have those. How many would I need? My PH is 7 and GH is 100ppm. Anything else you might suggest.

Cories would still be a possibility. Unless you've given your existing / recently-in-use tank a thorough scrub, there may well be the beneficial micro-organisms/biofilm on the inside surfaces. If that is the case (ie it's not been scrubbed clean), then the cories might be fine in that tank - definitely better in it than in a pristine new one.

No, just gave the tank a wipe so maybe corries are a possibility.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #60 on: February 18, 2018, 07:54:49 PM »
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My LFS (a branch of MA) has sparkling gourami in from time to time - they tend to be in the same section of the LFS as the micro/nano-sized species; if you have a local MA, they may be able to order them in for you or let you know when they have them in next. They are quite timid, though, so I'd advise keeping them with the ember or lemon tetra from your more recent shortlist - other tetra species may be too lively or nippy for them. Cories ought to be fine with them, though. That would make a nice combination - sparkling gourami in the upper level of the tank, a shoal of ember and/or lemon tetra in the middle, some cories on the bottom level of the tank.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #61 on: February 18, 2018, 07:58:46 PM »
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Ok, can anyone tell me the number to keep sparkling gouramis in. I only ask as seriously fish say a pair or small group whereas other sites say 6 to 8.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #62 on: February 18, 2018, 09:34:24 PM »
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They rant really fussed as far as I know. They are very peaceful. I have had anything from 2 to 4 in the past personally but don't let that really strict you.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2018, 08:43:32 AM »
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Is a sparkling gourami the same as a pygmy gourami?

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2018, 09:08:47 AM »
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Usually.
There are three gouramis in the genus Trichopsis, and while all three can be called pygmy gourami I have only once in 20 years seen anything other than T. pumila, the sparkling gourami, in any shop. I have seen sparkling gourami labelled as croaking gourami - that name should be applied to the other two species, but shops will be shops when it comes to names.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2018, 12:20:28 PM »
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Well picked up some Lemon and Ember tetras this morning. They only had a couple of panda corys so left those. Also looked at the gourami's which were marked as croaking gouramis but just didn't excite me.
Can anyone suggest another fish either from my list or elsewhere that would fit in with the tetras?

Had some luck as Maidenhead Aquatics water is exactly same as mine, so after balancing temperature I could add the fish quicker than normal. One tried to make a break for it but all in safely.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2018, 03:02:32 PM »
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Would bolivian or royal rams be an option? Or Harlequin Rasboras?

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2018, 04:06:57 PM »
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So that is all fish added for now.

8 x Lemon Tetra
8 x Ember Tetra
4 x Pepper Cory

They all seem happy at the moment. The Corys are flying round the tank but not annoying the tetras at all.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2018, 04:40:38 PM »
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Bolivian aka royal rams would be OK if you have sand on the tank floor. But you need to be aware that if you managed to find a pair and they spawned, the cories would never learn to stay away from the eggs and could get picked on.

And with cichlids you need to buy a bonded pair or a single fish. Just any male and any female could well dislike each other. They are very difficult to sex when young - the only 100% sure way is by their breeding tubes which are not visible in young fish.

Harlequins would be fine. There are two similar related species, Trigonostigma espei and T. hengeli that would work as well. Harlequins also come in a colour morph that has a very dark body and an almost orange nose - this is called purple harlequin, black harlequin or royal harlequin depending on which name the shop decides to use.

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