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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2018, 07:14:12 PM »
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Well just tested my water and got the following results

PH 7.0
GH 6 deg (100ppm)
KH 3 deg (50ppm

Can anyone see any problems with these figures?

Went to my local Pets at Home today, very clean looking tanks and varied stock. Saw a lot of fish possibilities. Different types of tetras (glowlight, rummynose, cardinal, black neon, silver tip, xray, penguin and rosy) and barbs (albino tiger, green tiger, small tiger, golden and cherry) And some I am not sure which category they fit like Black Widow, Pakistani Loach, Black Phantom and  Scissor Tail rasbora. Will need to look at seriously fish to see which fit my parameters water wise.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2018, 07:35:29 PM »
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And tank size wise, and compatibility wise  ;)

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2018, 07:54:11 PM »
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And tank size wise, and compatibility wise  ;)

Yes, have already dropped some from list due to tank size. Barbs worry me over compatibility, even with their own kind. If anyone has any info on tank mates for barbs, or if a barb only tank could work, would love to know.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2018, 08:11:28 PM »
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It does depend on the species of barb. Tiger barbs are notoriously bad for compatibility; I've had cherry barbs and they didn't bother any other fish.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2018, 08:18:52 PM »
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I only have tiger barbs in the same tank. I don't mix them with anything else because, quite frankly, they are nuts at feeding time.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2018, 10:48:30 PM »
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You have similar pH and hardness as me, though I don't know what size tank you have (did I read 125l somewhere?)

I have just introduced fiveband barbs to my 240l (planted) community tank and although they've only been in a week, they have coloured up and seem happy.

I have also had cherry barbs previously and they seemed happy, although weren't particularly long lived (I don't know if that is the species, or that my tank wasn't quite right for them). I don't remember any particular issues with disease with them.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2018, 07:09:33 PM »
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Thanks for the information on Barbs. I might try some cherry barbs and see how things go. Already took some fish off my possibles list but still should have a decent list left.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2018, 07:17:16 PM »
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Just for information, I used to have some albino cherry barbs. The males were orange, females yellow, both with red eyes. That's eyeball not eye ring! I got them from Maidenhead Aquatics though the branch I got them from hasn't had them recently.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2018, 08:07:26 PM »
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I am wondering if I should use live plants in the 2nd tank, something different to try but not sure where to start or what to get plant wise. Wonder if some fish would prefer live plants?

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2018, 08:13:21 PM »
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Fish don't particularly care whether they are plastic, silk, or live.  A planted tank is definitely a nice 'next step' in the hobby.  Some people find they don't get on with them, others find they came take to it quite naturally. To maximise your success I would recommend plants such as buce, anubias, java fern, which grow attached to decor rather than planted in the substrate.  These are bomb proof for most people and don't require specialised lighting, substrates or fertilisers.  You could start there and work up to something more complex over time perhaps??

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2018, 09:23:31 PM »
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To give you an idea of what Matt means, look at my tank https://forums.thinkfish.co.uk/gallery-showcase/sue's-fish-may-2017/ None of the plants in there are rooted in the substrate. I have water sprite floating on the surface, stems of hornwort weighted down, and everything else is attached to wood.


Live plants are good things to have in tanks - they use ammonia, meaning less ammonia for the bacteria turn in to nitrate = lower nitrate; and they absorb a lot of biochemicals made by the fish.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2018, 11:04:51 AM »
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Silly question but would plants attach to plastic decorations or does it have to be wood?

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2018, 12:15:28 PM »
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Java fern attaches to plastic because I had that on plastic before I changed it all to wood. I don't know about the other plants I have because I've never tried them on plastic. Bucephalandra attaches to rock - I had that on rock then switched it to wood.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2018, 01:09:35 PM »
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My anubias attached itself to the smooth glass of my tank. So I would guess that it would attach itself to anything.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2018, 07:26:20 PM »
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Thanks guys, all the plant info is very helpful.

Thought i had got lucky today with a second tank but it needs a new lighting unit which seems to cost £100. it is a Juwel 180 in case anyone has any other ideas.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2018, 07:16:22 PM »
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Well it seems I have a 2nd tank lined up, a second hand Juwel 125 with stand for £80. It need a filter and heater but people on here have already recommend a couple but any other recommendations gratefully received.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2018, 07:28:44 PM »
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I used to have a Juwel Rio 125. I removed the filter after a month because it was just so noisy and got an Eheim Aquaball, then changed it for an Eheim Biopower filter when they came out. The Fluval U series are also a good make (just swap the poly carbon pads for plain filter floss/filter wool)
I also had an Eheim Jager heater, the thermocontrol type, there is a 125 watt version.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2018, 03:01:32 PM »
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Well I get my second hand tank tomorrow so excited about that.

Visited Maidenhead Aquatics to see what fish they stocked and came away with quite a list, a few I hadn't seen before. But it did leave me with a question. I understand that Carlisle is a soft water area and wondering why they stock guppies and mollies that prefer hard water. I imagine some people might user RO but not a majority.

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2018, 03:07:50 PM »
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They stock them because there is a demand. They probably don't care what happens to the fish after they are sold. And although the vast majority of people who buy them will have no idea about them needing hard water there will be some keen fishkeepers who add remineralisation salts to their tanks to make the water harder.

The problem with seeing so many fish is trying to decide which ones  ;D

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Re: What to do with 2nd tank
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2018, 03:15:57 PM »
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The problem with seeing so many fish is trying to decide which ones  ;D

Well have visited my 3 local ones, each have different fish which is good but need to reduce the list to see who gets on with who and will fit tank and water conditions. MA had some fish I had never seen before like a blue eyed Gertrude rainbow and a lampeye which I will need to look into.

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