Author Topic: What else to keep with juvenile Angels (Read 13167 times) 57 replies

apache6467 · « **Reply #40 on:** November 18, 2017, 01:32:43 PM »

Having just looked at google images, the red eyes look perfect, like my silver tip tetras

Sue · « **Reply #41 on:** November 18, 2017, 02:57:41 PM »

Red eye tetras

From Seriously Fish http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/moenkhausia-sanctaefilomenae/ with my red highlighting

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A decent, albeit robust choice for the ‘general’ community tank, where it will add plenty of movement. Sedate species such as anabantoids or dwarf cichlids can be intimidated by its somewhat boisterous nature, so it’s best kept with active tankmates. Other similarly sized tetras, rainbowfish, larger rasboras, barbs and most danionins make excellent choices. Bottom dwellers such as Corydoras catfish, Doradids, small Loricariids and botiine loaches are also good companions. It can also be used as a dither for non-aggressive, medium-sized cichlids.
I would worry that sedate species like angels would not get on with them.
Although it has a reputation as a bit of a fin nipper, this behaviour can usually be rectified by keeping it in a small shoal of at least 6-8 specimens. When maintained in these kind of numbers any squabbling is generally contained within the group. As with virtually all tetras, it fares better in the presence of conspecifics anyway, and tends to be a little skittish if kept in insufficient numbers.

I would be concerned about keeping a sedate species like angelfish with them. Note the reference to being a bit on the nippy side.

Deleted User · « **Reply #42 on:** November 18, 2017, 03:38:56 PM »

Seriously Sue,
is there anything bigger then a Neon!! I can put in with Angels that
wont nip them, of should I just give up?

Matt · « **Reply #43 on:** November 18, 2017, 03:41:59 PM »

Have you tried using this page??

http://www.thinkfish.co.uk/fish-profiles

Sue · « **Reply #44 on:** November 18, 2017, 03:48:38 PM »

There are plenty of fish that would go. It is so difficult to think of them all

I think the best thing you can do is go and look in all your local shops and make a note of the fish that catch your eye. Don't buy any of them, if asked just say you are trying to decide.

Once you've finished looking, sit down and look up all the fish you noted on Seriously Fish. In particular, look at the hardness they need; the size of tank they need; and in the Behaviour and Compatibility section, see if there is anything about them being fin nippers. This will eliminate a lot of the fish you noted but there will be plenty left. Those are the ones to choose from.
There is nothing worse that deciding that x fish would fit perfectly and then discover that no-one sells it. I speak from experience

Don't listen to anyone in the shops if they suggest fish and try to get you to buy them. So many shop workers will say any rubbish to make a sale and will suggest the most unsuitable fish.

Deleted User · « **Reply #45 on:** November 18, 2017, 03:54:52 PM »

That's good advice Sue,
I'll do a packed lunch tomorrow and head of to my nearest place down here in the wilds of Devon, which is a MA two hours drive away, wish me luck.

Sue · « **Reply #46 on:** November 18, 2017, 03:58:30 PM »

That sounds like it will take all day

I am lucky, 2 MAs, and 3 good privately owned shops within half an hour's drive.

Deleted User · « **Reply #47 on:** November 18, 2017, 04:01:12 PM »

Lucky you

plus you said don't buy anything !! just have a look and ask questions

Sue · « **Reply #48 on:** November 18, 2017, 04:14:31 PM »

If you can access Seriously Fish while you are at the shop, then by all means look up the fish you like while you are there. Or in the car park. I tend to forget that this is possible as my mobile just makes phone calls and sends text messages. (I just can't touch the right place on the screen with phones, tablets etc so I use a laptop with a keyboard)

Don't ask them questions, they could tell you any old rubbish! Just fend them off if they ask you 'can I help' until you have made a decision.

Deleted User · « **Reply #49 on:** November 18, 2017, 04:21:08 PM »

Ah! ah!
I'm the same as you, only a lap top for me

maybe they'll let me borrow their computer

Oh! and I forgot to mention that in the Land Rover the trip is going to cost me over £10.00 in diesel !! Happy Days

Hampalong · « **Reply #50 on:** November 18, 2017, 04:44:06 PM »

Most tetras are fine with Angels. Let's try a different approach. What tetras do you like?

Sue · « **Reply #51 on:** November 18, 2017, 04:50:01 PM »

I agree.
It's just the very smallest that could get eaten, the very nippy ones that could nip the angels or the biggest tetras that need a tank longer than 100-ish cm. The rest are fine, but that still leaves a huge number, so many that is difficult to make suggestions.

Deleted User · « **Reply #52 on:** November 18, 2017, 05:00:45 PM »

My tank is 90x40 and 50 high..........and I really like Red Eyes .

Hampalong · « **Reply #53 on:** November 18, 2017, 05:20:40 PM »

Quote from: Madtony on November 18, 2017, 05:00:45 PM

My tank is 90x40 and 50 high..........and I really like Red Eyes .

Go for them. They're usually only nippy when not in a big enough group, and therefore bored. 10 or 12 should be fine. Never any guarantees but they should be fine. I love them too, one of my first ever tropicals.

Hampalong · « **Reply #54 on:** November 18, 2017, 05:22:30 PM »

I take it you mean the South American Red Eyes as opposed to the African ones...

Deleted User · « **Reply #55 on:** November 18, 2017, 05:25:28 PM »

Oooo! don't confuse me Mark

Sue · « **Reply #56 on:** November 18, 2017, 07:10:28 PM »

That's the trouble with common names

Red eye tetra http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/moenkhausia-sanctaefilomenae/

African red eye tetra http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/Arnoldichthys-spilopterus

As you'll see in those links, the south American one is the smaller of the two and is suitable for your tank. The African one is bigger, and needs a bigger tank than you have.

Deleted User · « **Reply #57 on:** November 18, 2017, 08:51:19 PM »

At last

I've decided to buy 10 South American Red Eyes to go with my Angels
and if it all kicks off in my tank I'll just blame everybody on here

NO!! Only joking

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