What Else To Keep With Juvenile Angels

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What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« on: November 15, 2017, 03:51:17 PM »
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Can someone advise on what other fish they have successfully kept with juvenile Angels
in the past, thanks.

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2017, 07:14:29 PM »
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Have you used the Community Creator? If you add angels to a tank, it'll make suggestions for other suitable fish. I think for Angels it suggests harlequin rasboras. Or some of the larger tetras (not bite sized). 

I looked at adding angels to my community tank and was surprised that suggested companions were on my list. I also had warnings though, for others in my tank, so I can't remember which was which!

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2017, 07:36:39 PM »
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Sorry, I've just checked and I was wrong. It is fiveband barbs and cardinal tetras that are suggested. I'm considering the former and have had the latter with my harlequin rasboras. I knew it was something that I had.  8)

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2017, 07:48:41 PM »
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The main fish to avoid with angels are small pencil shaped fish as they are easily eaten, certainly once the angels  grow up. Neon tetras are the natural prey of angels, and any neon sized and shaped fish will possibly be eaten. Harlequins have deeper bodies so should be OK. If fish from south America are wanted, any of the non-nippy, deep bodied tetras should work - but they need to be non-nippy species because of the angelfish's fins.

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2017, 08:51:05 PM »
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I've had a moderator moment and adjusted the title of this topic to make it easier to search for later down the line...

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2017, 08:58:21 PM »
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Hi Helen,
              yes I did use the compatibility thing and will try the big barb idea,  :)

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2017, 09:01:28 PM »
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Mark,
         I hope your moderator moment wasn't too painful  :rotfl:

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2017, 04:02:53 PM »
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Thanks all,
                  I tried the Community Creator and it said Five Band Barbs and Cardinal Tetras as Helen said
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Sue mentioned Harlequins,but I don't know what the "non-nippy" deep bodied Tetras are called ?

Names please :)

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2017, 05:04:03 PM »
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Most deep bodied tetras would be OK, the exceptions being serpaes (one of the nippiest tetras) and black widows (black skirts). Most others are OK if kept in large enough shoals.

Tetras usually have a hierarchy within a shoal and they set and maintain this hierarchy by nipping. If there aren't enough of them, they include the rest of the fish in the tank as part of the shoal, but in larger numbers they keep the nipping to their own species. When there are no fish with big fins the minimum number for shoal size is OK but big fins bring out the nipping tendency so more than 6 is safer with big finned fish.

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2017, 06:28:53 PM »
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I don't know what the "non-nippy" deep bodied Tetras are called ?
...and the deep-bodied tetras include the ones that look like that in the relevant section of this page http://www.thinkfish.co.uk/fish-profiles eg phantom, widow/skirt, diamond, emperor, bleeding heart, Columbian, silver dollar, head- and tail-light, lemon, red-eye and rosy.

Hope that helps.  :fishy1:

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2017, 07:35:09 PM »
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Yes fcmf,
              that does help, thanks for taking the time  :D

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2017, 08:29:04 PM »
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OK that's it !!
                      conflicting advice from the fish keeping fraternity  ;)
Will someone be brave enough to name one fish that I will buy 10 of that wont bite my Angels fins?

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2017, 08:44:23 PM »
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My only advice is not to get penguin tetras, as mine even nipped the bristlenose plec I had in that tank, even though they were in a shoal of 10, along with 10 glass bloodfin tetras and hatchets.
I have moved the fish around and the glass bloodfins are in a tank with 10 lemon tetras and one of the plecs.
Both the bloodfins and lemon tetras are quite chilled though.
Diamond tetras are very pretty.
Sometimes it's impossible to say that a shoal of fish wont nip as sometimes it's down to the individual fish in the shoal rather than the species itself.

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2017, 09:27:22 PM »
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Sometimes it's impossible to say that a shoal of fish wont nip as sometimes it's down to the individual fish in the shoal rather than the species itself.
Couldn't agree more with this comment!

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2017, 09:40:44 PM »
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OK that's it !!
                      conflicting advice from the fish keeping fraternity  ;)
Will someone be brave enough to name one fish that I will buy 10 of that wont bite my Angels fins?

Harlequins, or one of their lookalikes - Espe's rasboras and Hengel's rasboras. The only thing I can think of that might put you off (if you consider such things to be important) is that they are from a different continent from angels.

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2017, 10:33:18 PM »
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...and to illustrate the point Littlefish made, and my emphatic agreement, it was actually a harlequin rasbora I was referring to - I have one who terrorises and chases all ten other fish in the tank relentlessly every afternoon without fail.
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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2017, 11:30:25 PM »
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How about my old friend Mr Platy??  O:-)

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2017, 06:32:16 AM »
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Is your water hardness between 10 and 15 DH?

Angelfish are quite slow moving whilst platys are very active. Does any one think they would stress the angels as a result?

Other than this, I don't see why it couldn't work...

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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2017, 08:05:09 AM »
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@Madtony, I realised that my comment about my rogue harlequin might have put you off them altogether which I absolutely wouldn't want - they are lovely fish and I can't envisage them actually fin-nipping. Just to clarify that there are no guarantees with any species of fish, as there could always be a rogue (temporarily or long-term). Sometimes it's possible to read too much or not consider the information that individuals report on their own experiences in the wider context such as the fish profiles, so don't let every negative comment you read make you strike a particular species off the list.
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Re: What else to keep with juvenile Angels
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2017, 08:25:16 AM »
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I have espe's rasboras (Trigonostigma espei), one of the species closely related to harlequins, and they are anything but aggressive and nippy. I think I have 14 of them but they are very tricky to count in tank with lots of plants and wood. (I bought 18 but three died within the first couple of weeks. I asked for and paid for 15 but there were 18 in the bag  :) )

However, I partially retract my statement about keeping them with angels - with any fish in fact - because Trigonostigmas of any of the three species like cover. Seeing mine first in a tank with no floating plants and now in a tank with almost the whole surface covered in plants I can definitely say that they don't like being exposed when the tank light is on. When I first got them I didn't have any floating plants and they hid in a corner. Then I bought some water sprite and they hid under that. As the water sprite has grown, they venture further into the tank but only as far as the edge of the plants.
So my partial retraction is to say - harlequins or one of their lookalikes provided you have some plants (real or synthetic) floating on the water surface.

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