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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #60 on: February 08, 2020, 11:28:26 AM »
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I also wouldn’t keep danios with Gouramies. Most danios are hyperactive and live mostly at and near the surface. Gouramies live there too and want a slower, more easy going existence.

Apart from that it sounds good. You’ve quite a few tetras to choose from, or even another Rasbora group...

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2020, 12:30:49 PM »
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I also wouldn’t keep danios with Gouramies. Most danios are hyperactive and live mostly at and near the surface. Gouramies live there too and want a slower, more easy going existence.

Apart from that it sounds good. You’ve quite a few tetras to choose from, or even another Rasbora group...

I did a lot of research on the danio, the pearl danio came recommend as very peaceful against other danios. However I already have a few tetra in other tank, so makes sense with my 12 harlequins to add more tetras. I seem to remember reading somewhere that neons and gouramis don't mix but cant find info now. Can anyone confirm this?

Had a great chat with a guy who is writing a book on keeping barbs. It was extremely helpful and I think a barb tank with zebra loaches is definitely in the running. The guy was very patient with all my questions and matched info I had already looked up. So I might go barbs in the 200 litre tank and go sailfins and platys in the other 125, but not set in stone just yet.


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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2020, 01:02:23 PM »
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Neons can be a little nippy of gourami ventral fins, but so can a lot of tetras, and other fish. You won’t know till you do it but they’re usually ok.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2020, 02:43:31 PM »
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After all the trials and tribulations of the week, think I finally have a stocking plan. Needs a little tidying but here it is.

Tank 1 (125l)

Harlequins
Neons
Honey Gouramis Not sure if 2 or 3 is best)
Corys

Tank 2 (125l)
Platy
Sailfin

Tank 3 (200l)

Odessa Barb
Ruby Barb
Cherry Barb
Maybe a mix of two, or even the 5 banded barb, rhombo barb or melon barb. But definitely barb

Zebra Loach (although checking tank size) or Dwarf Chain Loach.

I cant see anything wrong, but if you can, let me know. Thanks for everyone's help/advice etc.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #64 on: February 08, 2020, 05:00:38 PM »
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Re Tank 3 (and Tank 2), I think Hampalong's advice previously is helpful here:
For tank 2 I would swap the Cherry Barbs for a species more similar in size to the other two. A Barb tank is a very active tank, and Cherries prefer a quiet peaceful tank. The others might be a little too active and ‘in their face’. Cherries prefer a quiet life, mulling around in and near the plant cover, while the others are more open water species.

You could buy one (female) livebearer, and the tank would soon become fully stocked.

Re Tank 1, sounds lovely to me. I'm not sure how prevalent Neon Tetra Disease is nowadays but I gather cardinal tetras are a bit more robust if you were happy enough to consider them as an alternative. As for choice of cories, that's an individual preference - I love the patterning on julii and trilineatus, for example.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #65 on: February 08, 2020, 05:10:34 PM »
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Re Tank 3 (and Tank 2), I think Hampalong's advice previously is helpful here:
For tank 2 I would swap the Cherry Barbs for a species more similar in size to the other two. A Barb tank is a very active tank, and Cherries prefer a quiet peaceful tank. The others might be a little too active and ‘in their face’. Cherries prefer a quiet life, mulling around in and near the plant cover, while the others are more open water species.

You could buy one (female) livebearer, and the tank would soon become fully stocked.

Re Tank 1, sounds lovely to me. I'm not sure how prevalent Neon Tetra Disease is nowadays but I gather cardinal tetras are a bit more robust if you were happy enough to consider them as an alternative. As for choice of cories, that's an individual preference - I love the patterning on julii and trilineatus, for example.

Thanks. Re the barbs the guy I spoke to, who is actually writing a book about them has Odessa and Cherry's in the same tank for quite a long time and they are happy together as well as the loaches. However I do have other options including Melon Barbs, pentazona and Rhomba ones. There is plenty of choice.

With tank 1 I need to check if j need a male and female honey gouramis or 1 male and 2 females.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #66 on: February 08, 2020, 07:55:37 PM »
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In the past I had just a male/female pair, though they can be kept as trio. With some gourami species the male can get pretty aggressive with a female but honeys aren't like that. The male does chase the female(s) when he's ready to spawn but the worst damage he does is it to the tail, and that heals quickly. Unlike some other species which have been known to kill a female if she's not 'in the mood'.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #67 on: February 08, 2020, 08:12:18 PM »
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She’s advice is definitely in line with most peoples experiences. I however have had 2 bad experiences with male honey gourami killing the female. That said, my current male gourami will pick fights with anything... I think it depends a bit on the individual character of individual fish. Perhaps best discussing with the shop whether you can do a swap later if the pair don’t get on.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #68 on: February 08, 2020, 08:17:22 PM »
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I've had more problems with two females fighting each other  :o

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #69 on: February 08, 2020, 08:19:02 PM »
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How about pearl gouramis? Are they good in a pair?

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« Reply #70 on: February 08, 2020, 08:24:44 PM »
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I've only had mine for a couple of weeks, but they are supposed to be one of the most peaceful of the larger gouramis.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #71 on: February 09, 2020, 10:02:30 AM »
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I've had more problems with two females fighting each other  :o

Actually I think I did have 2 females once before. I assumed one was a less obvious male - this might very well explain it!!!!

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #72 on: February 09, 2020, 02:06:22 PM »
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Hi @Matt

After some planting advice. In Tank 3 I have been advised to use sand due to the loaches. Fine with that, and been suggested to have Anubias and Java Fern. If I remember correctly Anubias is attached to rock, wood etc. With the Java Fern, how do I plant it in the sand. Do I just plant in the sand but put root tabs near by?

Cheers.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #73 on: February 09, 2020, 02:12:04 PM »
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Java fern should be attached to décor just like the anubias  :cheers:

You may also wish to consider buce and bolbitis which are the same.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #74 on: February 09, 2020, 02:45:32 PM »
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Java fern should be attached to décor just like the anubias  :cheers:

You may also wish to consider buce and bolbitis which are the same.

Ok, that sounds easy enough for a change  ;D.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #75 on: February 09, 2020, 04:01:45 PM »
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I use lots of different anubias & bucephalandra in my river tank. I also use various anubius in with my axolotls. Great stuff. Easy to use, low maintenance, and the larger anubias are big enough for the panda garras to rest on the leaves.  :)

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #76 on: February 09, 2020, 05:41:31 PM »
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My main tank has water sprite as a floating plant and all the other plants are attached to decor (wood in my case). I have all the plants that Matt suggested  :)

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #77 on: February 09, 2020, 07:09:19 PM »
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How about pearl gouramis? Are they good in a pair?

Hi @barneyadi

Nothing's straightforward in this hobby, is it? I say that because I used to have a single pair of Pearl Gouramis in my 125 litre tank. They were peaceful until it came to feeding time. The male would chase and attack the female every time. I didn't have a spare tank into which I could move the female. Eventually, her condition deteriorated to such an extent that I had to euthanaze her. Every fishkeeper's worst wish.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #78 on: February 09, 2020, 07:30:22 PM »
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Hi @jaypeecee

It is not straightforward a tall. Got two tanks sorted in my head, will go with Honey Gouramis in one. The tank I am having doubts about is the livebearer one. I love the colour but just having second thoughts. I am enjoying watching my Harlequin Rasboras swimming and wondering if two or three different smaller rasboras like Galaxy, Mosquito and Blue Line would look good.

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Re: Stocking ideas
« Reply #79 on: February 09, 2020, 11:51:35 PM »
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Are you enjoying the harlequins because they school tightly? Not all Rasboras are equal in this regard... the best fish I have ever found for schooling behaviour is the runny nose terra. e.g. galaxies are quite shy and rarely school.

[In the event that anyone gets strange results when internet searching this species of fish :rotfl:, Moderator FCMF intervening in this post to clarify that 'runny nose terra' is 'rummy nose tetra' C:-).]

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