Author Topic: Stocking a 240l (Read 14197 times) 36 replies

Harbremily · « **Reply #20 on:** June 16, 2017, 04:02:59 PM »

120cm long. What would the German degrees of my tank be? The same as my tapwater?

Sue · « **Reply #21 on:** June 16, 2017, 04:10:11 PM »

In theory yes it would be the same. But things in the tank can alter GH, though it is usually upwards. Limestone, coral etc can increase GH.

You could take a sample of tap water to a shop and get them to test it for GH, but ask them to write the number down rather that say something waffly.

120 cm is fine for boesemans.

Harbremily · « **Reply #22 on:** June 16, 2017, 04:17:34 PM »

I know my local hardness is 6.35 in German Degrees.

Sue · « **Reply #23 on:** June 16, 2017, 04:32:43 PM »

Can I go back to the first post.

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Tank perams;
ph being 6.5 gh being >7 and kh being about 5

Local water: hard, ph 7.5, 113.1mg/l calcium

There you gave your tank hardness as over 7 and your tap water as hard. Now you've said your tap water is 6.35

I am confused $:-\$

Harbremily · « **Reply #24 on:** June 16, 2017, 04:36:03 PM »

The local ph is 7.5
The local hardness in german degrees is 6.35

Sue · « **Reply #25 on:** June 16, 2017, 04:42:18 PM »

Ahh, in that case the water is fine for rams but not boeseman rainbows. Most rainbows need hard water but some, such as dwarf rainbows and threadfin rainbows that you mentioned earlier, are soft water fish.

Harbremily · « **Reply #26 on:** June 16, 2017, 04:44:51 PM »

Fair enough. In that case I'm totally at a loss again

Harbremily · « **Reply #27 on:** June 16, 2017, 09:20:25 PM »

Ok, so I'm thinking perhaps Celebes Rainbows? I'm reading that they can take a ph range between 6.5-8, though I'm also seeing reports of them taking much lower PH's than this?

Sue · « **Reply #28 on:** June 16, 2017, 09:44:43 PM »

Unfortunately, the profile of the celebese rainbow on Seriously Fish gives the hardness range as 10 to 25 dH so your hardness isn't high enough for them.

Hardness is more important than pH when looking for a suitable species.

Harbremily · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2017, 09:47:59 PM »

$:-\$ I dunno then. I think that's pretty much everything haha.

Sue · « **Reply #30 on:** June 16, 2017, 09:57:37 PM »

There is one course of action we haven't yet mentioned. Take a tour around all your local shops and see what they stock. make a note of anything that catches your eye (remembering that the fish in the shops still have some growing to do) then look them up on Seriously Fish. You could well see something that none of us have thought of.
You need fish that won't pick on the rams; fish that won't stress them by swimming too vigorously, and fish that like the same water as rams.

Harbremily · « **Reply #31 on:** June 16, 2017, 10:00:41 PM »

The biggest issue I have there is I don't drive, and the only two decent fish stores sort of near me are about 30 minutes away by car. Which is fine but the person who'd take me isn't going to wait while I spend an hour where I'm not even buying something. The places are sort of in the middle of nowehere, so it's not like he could even go somewhere and do something else for a while.

Sue · « **Reply #32 on:** June 16, 2017, 10:04:21 PM »

Ah, I'd forgotten that, sorry

Harbremily · « **Reply #33 on:** June 16, 2017, 10:10:09 PM »

Nothing to be sorry for! It just puts me in a position where I really have no clue what to do. Everything I'd like needs water with a harder degree than I have or can't take the temperature. It's a hard life lmfao.

What about these;
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/bedotia-madagascarensis/

Sue · « **Reply #34 on:** June 17, 2017, 08:51:01 AM »

I looked at the Seriously Fish profile and didn't believe what I read. I have never heard of a fish that can live in water with such a huge hardness range - they give 0 to 268 ppm or 0 to 15 dH. My other go-to site is FishBase, and they don't give water requirements. I don't trust most of the sites found by google to give accurate information. But I did find one that was interesting http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/2721/0 If you scroll down to 'habitat and ecology' it does bear out what SF says, and this site should be reliable.

So yes, they would be suitable for your tank.

Harbremily · « **Reply #35 on:** June 17, 2017, 11:23:18 AM »

I actually read in several sources that they can be really aggressive despite things saying they're peaceful. I've actually decided to go for the spotted headstander instead.

Sue · « **Reply #36 on:** June 17, 2017, 11:40:36 AM »

I've just looked that up and it seems you have a winner. SF's list of suitable tank mates includes rams of both species. And at 7 to 8 cm it is a bigger fish.

Now all you have to do is find some

There is always the option of on-line, though courier fees can be expensive. You mentioned Pets@Home and a garden centre - I would ask at the garden centre if they can order some in for you. The worst they can say is no. Make sure you have the latin name as well as the common name so that if they are willing to order them, they get the right fish. I have done this with my favourite shop and they have looked at their two wholesalers' websites while I've been in the shop to see if the fish I wanted were available.

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