Spawning Rainbow Kribs?

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Offline Alex_N

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2015, 07:49:16 PM »
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Yeah. I've spoken to the guy that's having the fry off us and he's said the same thing.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2015, 08:26:29 PM »
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Very sorry to read of this.

I've always had artificial plants, plastic or silk. I'd be very surprised if a fish could get wedged in plant under normal circumstances although have definitely had dying, very weak fish get buffeted in by the current and wedged in plants at that stage, so I reckon the attack came first. Very sad.

Good luck with a speedy cycling of the nursery tank.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2015, 11:45:40 PM »
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The Mrs has told me, I've been at work, that the male has been holding the smaller fry in his mouth. So it seems he still has paternal instincts.
The 'plant' in question was a plastic one and she had got stuck right down at the base where there is even less movement. The current she got caught in was the intake so it is more than likely the nipping took place before hand. But she was head down in the plant as if she was feeding on the algae and had got stuck before the nipping.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2015, 10:54:13 AM »
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I have noticed over the years that sick fish (and that includes injured fish as well as those with an infection) will wedge themselves into plants. I have always assumed that it means they can just rest rather than having to actively swim all the time. Whenever I see a fish motionless in a plant, I know there is something wrong with that fish. Your krib female might have done this if her tail had gone before she wedged herself in.

Interesting about the male, though. Maybe nature arranges things so that if the mother disappears the father instinctively takes over.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2015, 11:55:16 AM »
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That's an interesting point.

He only seems to be taking the smaller fry into his mouth and the others are desperately trying to gain access. I'm going on the assumption that he believes the bigger ones are big enough to fend for themselves stronger swimmers, better grazers etc.
He's still protecting them, chasing the Penguins away, but at the same time willing to leave them to it.
He's doing an ok job but I think he might be feeling stretched with the workload as he doesn't seem as bright in appearance.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2015, 09:52:14 AM »
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Quick update.
Fry are doing well, dad seems to be doing a lot better at caring for them.
The fry look more like fish with clearly  visible eyes and dorsal fins. They are a lot more capable at swimming in the current and constantly feeding on the algae.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2015, 12:19:23 PM »
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Be alert for the day that dad decides they are competition rather than children. He will try to kill them. Well, kill the males, and maybe try to mate with the females now that his partner has gone. You'll need to remove the fry asap when that day comes.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2015, 12:59:53 PM »
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Indeed.
The net is all ready to go.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2015, 05:32:55 PM »
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Fry are now in the hatchery after a good 20 frustrating minutes of searching.
Dad, as cunning as ever, has smuggled 3 fry into the main tank.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2015, 01:27:41 PM »
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Well done - you're doing well in your "grandparent" role.  :)

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2015, 10:20:13 AM »
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Thanks fcmf.
I wish I had done it sooner to be honest, the tank is a lot calmer, the only chasing seems to be when it's feeding time. I may well still have Princess Mia as well,  never mind though there's all ways next time.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2015, 02:31:47 PM »
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The fry have not long been moved into the nursery tank.
The HOB filter seems to be a slight problem though, it's a fluval 1. Even on the lowest setting it seems to be a bit strong, they've taken to sitting on top of it. Would it be wise just to keep the filter on for a couple of hours rather than 24/7 until they're a bit bigger and stronger?

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2015, 03:01:25 PM »
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The problem with turning it off is that ammonia will build up. I know they are only tiny, but all infant animals make more waste than you'd think for the size because they are busy using energy to grow.

What do you mean by the Fluval 1 HOB filter? I can only find Fluval 1 plus and U1 internal filters on Hagen's website or anywhere on google.

If you do mean an internal filter, try getting hold of a knee high sock (ask a female friend/relative to donate a new, unused one  :D ) and slide that over the intake slits. That's what I've done with the Eheim aquaball in the tank with the shrimps to stop baby shrimps getting sucked in. And there are ways of making a baffle for internal filters - cut the top and bottom off a 2 litre plastic bottle to make a cylinder, and trim it till it slides over the filter.
If it is an actual HOB filter (which sits outside the tank at the top with an uptake tube removing water from the tank like this) slip a piece of sponge over the end of the tube.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2015, 05:32:38 PM »
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Very true with the whole waste thing.
I thought a HOB was the whole unit inside the tank that literally hangs on the back of the tank. I'm clearly mistaken as it's the U1 model.
Very good ideas, I have seen the bottle idea before now you've mentioned it.
I'm sure one of my girl's can spare a pair of tights.

 I do mean daughters rather than a harem lol

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2015, 06:34:23 PM »
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It's those Americans with their different names for everything that are to blame  ;D
They use HOB filters much more than we do; in fact they hardly use internal filters. If you read things written by Americans you'd think there were only two types of filter; canisters that go in the cupboard under the tank (which we call externals) and HOBs. In the UK, you rarely see HOBs in shops but they are full of internals. So reading things written by Americans it is easy to assume that when they say HOB, they mean internal.



A sock (the things we used to call pop socks) is better than the end of a pair of tights - a cut off pair of tights tend to unravel. And if you have a U1, see if they have black socks/tights as then it won't stand out as much  :)

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2015, 12:11:16 AM »
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Damn those Yanks and their fake English  ;D
I shall have a look in the kids sock draws and see what might be useful in the morning.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2015, 12:41:34 AM »
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I fear I may be to late to create a guard.
I've just got home from to find one of the larger fry struggling to free itself from the filter intake.
At the minute I fear I have lost the majority of the shoal. :(

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2015, 09:32:31 AM »
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Just checked the sponge media and there was only four caught in the filter.
A lot better than first feared.

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2015, 10:24:25 AM »
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 :o That was a close one!

Good luck with the rest and keep us updated.  :)

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Re: Spawning Rainbow Kribs?
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2015, 10:51:19 AM »
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Yeah just a bit.
I turned the filter off last night just to be safe and now about to raid the kids sock draw :P

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