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Offline louking13

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Neons and cardinals
« on: May 19, 2014, 09:04:38 AM »
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Apologies if this has been asked before! I know neons and cardinals should be kept in groups of no less than 6 but can you make up the numbers with a mix of neons and cardinals? Could you say have a mixture of 5 neons and 5 cardinals or is it best to stick with 6 or more of each?
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2014, 09:35:58 AM »
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They don't tend to mix 'cos of temperature requirements. Neons do better around the 22ºC mark while Cardinals are better at about 25ºC. There's a difference between 'best' and 'they'll manage'.

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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2014, 09:44:55 AM »
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Ah well that I did not know! Learn something new every day!
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2014, 10:24:26 AM »
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Quote from: louking13 on May 19, 2014, 09:04:38 AM
Apologies if this has been asked before! I know neons and cardinals should be kept in groups of no less than 6 but can you make up the numbers with a mix of neons and cardinals? Could you say have a mixture of 5 neons and 5 cardinals or is it best to stick with 6 or more of each?
Well... No, they are different species. When it says "in a group", it doesn't just mean 5 or 6 arbitrary fish. It means 'of the same species'.
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2014, 10:44:44 AM »
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Was worth asking the question because I've seen so much conflicting info on the net!
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2014, 12:08:48 PM »
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Neons and cardinals probably would shoal together but only out of desperation if there wasn't enough of either of them. They do much better in groups of at least six of the same species. It's the same with cories, a lot of people have just one of several species thinking that a cory is just a cory. But they also need to be in groups of the same species.
One thing that does annoy me is shops that have a tank of 'mixed tetras' and there are never enough of any one species to make a shoal  >:(
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2014, 06:07:18 PM »
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Also worth pointing out that a minimum recommended shoal size is exactly that - the least you should have - so if you can get more then it's likely to be beneficial to your fish to do so. For example, a shoal of 12 of one type (Neon or Cardinal) would be preferable to 6 of each in my view. :)

Just being nosey now, but why would you want to combine Neon's and Cardinal's as they are obviously very similar? Not having a dig by the way, just interested!
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2014, 06:18:04 PM »
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Purchased some additional neons today :) we had 6 originally and lost one, bought 6 more so now the group is bigger hopefully they'll be happier!
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2014, 06:21:23 PM »
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It was more about the fact that I didnt want too many neons but now we've got more they look really good all together!
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2014, 06:31:37 PM »
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Quote from: louking13 on May 19, 2014, 06:18:04 PM
Purchased some additional neons today :) we had 6 originally and lost one, bought 6 more so now the group is bigger hopefully they'll be happier!
Quote from: louking13 on May 19, 2014, 06:21:23 PM
It was more about the fact that I didnt want too many neons but now we've got more they look really good all together!

Definitely agree  :cheers:  - a good sized shoal of Neon's or Cardinal's is an impressive sight, whatever your fishy preference. I have 12 Cardinal's and I keep toying with adding more, although my stocking levels are getting pretty high now and I'd still like to add some Peacock Gobies.
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2014, 06:35:12 PM »
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I fear my stocking levels getting high! Not sure what I'll do when I can't add any more! Definitely no more space for larger or additional tanks!  :(
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2014, 07:10:36 PM »
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Quote from: louking13 on May 19, 2014, 06:35:12 PM
I fear my stocking levels getting high! Not sure what I'll do when I can't add any more! Definitely no more space for larger or additional tanks!  :(

Dig up the garden and put in a pond! :))
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2014, 08:38:21 PM »
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Dig up the garden and put in a pond! :))
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Haha! Communal garden... don't reckon the residents would be too chuffed with that! 

Might stop them letting their dogs poo everwhere though!  :raspberries
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2014, 03:18:02 AM »
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Perhaps you could get Chris to come round in the night and do it. He could take away all the soil you no longer require. :))
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2014, 07:41:13 AM »
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Seems i have got a reputation as the soil theif     :rotfl:
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Re: Neons and cardinals
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2014, 09:38:47 AM »
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If I see that half the garden has been dug up I'll know who to blame! :)
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