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Sanjo · « **on:** January 29, 2015, 04:29:25 PM »

I've started to look at fish profiles ready for eventual stocking of my little 21 ltre Aquanano.

The community Creator says I could have 6 Galaxys and two otocinclus and be at 86%.

Galaxys apparently prefer to have water as vs, s, m and our water is in the range of hard, v.hard.

Would I be right in thinking that if I get the fish from a Lfs they are likely to be acclimatised to harder water and so therefore would be OK in my tank.

I know I've asked before regarding total stocking but with tank fully cycled could I put the 85% straight in and monitor carefully for a couple of days. The LFS isn't the one on my doorstep, although likely to be served by the same water company. I'm trying to save another road trip

Sue · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2015, 07:27:01 PM »

I know that when you enter otocinclus in the community creator it doesn't flag up a minimum number, but they do need to be in a shoal of at least six. And they also need to be put into a mature tank (ie one that has been running at least 6 months) that has plenty of algae already growing. They can be very picky eaters and can starve to death if the tank doesn't have the right kind of algae, and small tanks can't usually grow enough algae for a shoal of otos.
Personally, I would not put otos in a tank as small as yours, I'm afraid.

Looking at Seriously Fish for galaxy rasboras aka celestial pearl danios it says their preferred water is hardness 90 to 268 ppm or if you prefer German degrees, that's 5 to 15 deg. In other words, pretty soft to hard. And the less important pH is 6.5 to 7.5.

I would stick with half a dozen galaxies, maybe add a couple more in a few months time.
Or maybe half a dozen male-only endlers livebearers instead. males because females get a lot bigger and will have fry, which will soon overpopulate the tank.

These are the only two fish I can think of that like hard water and would fit in your tank.

Sanjo · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2015, 10:08:34 PM »

Thanks Sue. I do like the endlers but I want to get them from MA and they didn't have any on the two occasions I have been in there and I don't get the impression they are a fish they normally stock

I'll have to play it by ear when I am finally ready to get them

Sue · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2015, 09:35:42 AM »

MAs can vary quite a bit from branch to branch. We have 3 reasonably locally (the furthest is 40 miles in the place where our son lives) and they usually have at least one colour pattern in stock.

Since endlers are obviously on their wholesaler's list, you could ask if yours would get some in for you.

Sanjo · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2015, 01:25:25 PM »

I rang MA today to see if they have any Endlers in stock.
Not at the moment.
Well when do you think you'll have some.
Don't know really. We have a delivery on Tuesday.
Oh will you have some then.
Don't know, it depends on what's sent.
But if I ring Tuesday you could tell me.
Not necessarily, they may come in at night and we wouldn't know until next day.
Right, so if I ring Wednesday you could say you had some in.
Well, yes but then they'll need quarantine and that takes 2 weeks.

It makes it sound as if they don't actually place an order per se but just accept what comes in, presumably according to reduced figures they send in. But - if that was the case then Endlers should be included since they haven't stocked them since I first went in about 3 weeks ago.
He advised me to check Facebook as they put their new stock on there

I know PaH have a tank full of them but I was reluctant to go there.

My really LFS only had 2 a couple of weeks ago so I suppose my next step, as soon as I am sure this tank is ready, is to try them again. At least if I'm buying fish he might be able to slap a smile on his face.

I do like the Galaxy, but I'm just concerned that, as we will probably be a one species tank, they may hide all the time. It isn't a very planted tank.

PS on the subject of planted tanks (and I hope this doesn't raise too many eyebrows for being a stupid question) does that only refer to live plants or can it also refer to silk, since they would also provide hiding places ?

Sue · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2015, 01:58:35 PM »

When people talk about planted tanks they are referring to live plants. Live plants are a whole subject of their own; you'll see people talking about CO₂ injection and EI (estimative index) and what fertilizers are best.
Live plants are better than fake, if you can grow them. If I can manage decor with java fern tried to it, that plant must be easy! But there is nothing to stop you having all fake or a mixture of real and fake.

Some shops can be really unhelpful, though others are really helpful. I got 4 of my microdevario first; the shop ordered them is specially - 10 of them - but only 4 turned up. I found 2 more at a different shop, then the first shop phoned to say they had got some more in for me, which is how I finally managed to get hold of 12.
It is possible that the staff at your MA are not responsible for ordering, that is done by someone else. The MA closest to me is one of 3 MAs managed by one person so if ordering is done by the manager, he could work at any of the three shops.

Sanjo · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2015, 06:33:52 PM »

Thanks Sue

Sue · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2015, 06:44:34 PM »

There a lot of Ebay sellers with endlers - it might be worth a check to see if there is anyone near you who would allow collection. Postal delivery is always an option but the post changes are very high and it is a bit cold at the moment to risk it even with a heat pack in the box.

Endlers are anything but shy, they are very active fish and swim all over the tank. The males chase each other but never do any harm.
If you want small brightly coloured fish that don't hide all the time, these are the ones to go for.

Sanjo · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2015, 07:10:51 PM »

I was keen on Endlers from the start and then got sidetracked with the Galaxys.

I have seen loads of the Endlers in Pets at Home which is how I know they are an attractive little fish.
I have been browsing Ebay and as you say there are a number of sellers on there.
I picked one out a couple of weeks ago and chased up lots of different reviews of them. They are based in Ipswich so a fair distance but they get excellent reviews.
Trying to persuade the other half that £15 delivery (sent by courier and only once delivery with a guarantee from us that the fish will be taken in) is not unreasonable
He's actually got as far as working out the difference in the cost of driving there to get them or having them sent.
I told him we could make a day of it and have a nice long walk somewhere and collect them on the way back.

Got it all planned in my head, freezer bag lined with blanket, flask of boiling water ready to fill a hot water bottle before we start out on the way home, and a battery powered air pump which I already have.
I should have been a boy scout!

The Ipswich Ebay shop also appears to let you have a mixed lot of males so they wouldn't all be the same strain.
I assume that they would all get along even if they didn't look the same.:?

The other advantage is that the Community Creator says I can have 8-10 (brings it up to 95%) so that would make a nice group.

That brings me back, of course, to getting them all at once since it is a fairway to go.

Sue · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2015, 07:26:31 PM »

The different strains are the same species so no problems mixing them.
I should also add that all endlers sold in shops are actually hybrids with guppies somewhere in their ancestry. This makes no difference to the fish, but I didn't want you to think you will have pure strain endlers. To get those, you have to go to a specialist breeder who has their pedigree all the way back to the wild. I used to have some pure bred ones a few years ago, and the hybrids look exactly the same. Maybe the only difference is a bigger range of colours in the hybrids.

I don't know how far Ipswich is for you, but I have bought fish for several years from a shop an hour's drive away with no problems. I do keep them warm in cold weather which usually means stuffing the bag inside the front of my jacket and using my 37 deg to keep them warm

. But if you tell the shop you have a fair distance to go, they can often pump oxygen into the bag so they won't need an air pump - especially if the shop is used to posting them!

Sanjo · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2015, 07:34:25 PM »

Thanks Sue. I did know I would be getting guppy hybrids so that's ok.

fcmf · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2015, 07:38:21 PM »

Sanjo,

You might find that MA does indeed turn out to have the Endlers in stock on the Wed - maybe worth waiting to find out eg if you'd like to see them before you buy them? If they don't get them in, then perhaps you could go down the Ipswich Ebay route (which does sound good, from what you've told us).

When I was thinking of getting cories, my local MA was happy to put in a request specifically for some baby panda ones which would arrive in the delivery a fortnight later (on a Tues eve). As it transpired, they were sent pygmy cories and said that there mustn't have been any available of the panda variety from the supplier/s and so these were sent as substitutes. This example might help understand how the ordering/supply process works. I would definitely choose/wait for the MA ones rather than go to PAH, though; having said that, PAH standards can really vary, at least once the fish are in the shop, and I've been to LFS whose standards are a lot lower than PAH.

Not sure if that helps/confuses - just some thoughts for what they're worth. Looking forward to hearing what you get in the end - and seeing some pics once they're in their new home

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Sanjo · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2015, 08:09:51 PM »

Thanks fcmf.
It's impatience wots causing the problem

If we had something to look at other than filter bubbles and yellow plastic fish it wouldn't be so bad but to have to wait for the fish to be ordered, arrive and then quarantined - well!

To be fair the plastic fish aren't that bad. They have moving tails on a tiny little hinge and if they are in the right position in front of the filter one will suddenly and realistically shoot across the tank - before it gets jammed in the filter outlet that is.

Will keep you posted, but only if the fish survive .

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