Author Topic: Easier / best fish and tank? (Read 15747 times) 49 replies

jesnon · « **Reply #20 on:** June 23, 2014, 08:21:43 PM »

Ahh this is the exact one I think:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Algarde-42150S-Power-Cleaner-Single/dp/B000S5JMZ6

Unfortunately it looks like it doesn't actually remove any water? So isn't really what I'm after! I really don't understand how it works either!!

I think what I might do is buy myself a new siphon (mine has been annoying me for a while!) and give him my current one... at least I know how to use that one!! I don't want to keep spending too much money on everything!

Sue · « **Reply #21 on:** June 23, 2014, 08:45:58 PM »

That siphon, now I have a better picture to look at does seem to be the kind that just 'filters' the water through a bag, removes the muck and puts the water back in. I suppose it's useful if you have very messy fish and don't want to do a water change every day, but you do need to change the water as well at least once a week. And bettas aren't exactly messy fish.

The filter media will be fine for that long in some water. If you have a tubs with a tight lid that you don't mind sacrificing, that would work as well.

notungz · « **Reply #22 on:** June 24, 2014, 12:06:34 AM »

I have a male Betta in a 34 litre tank. I got him last Oct/Nov and he is still going strong.

They must be fairly easy to look after because I am still a novice and I haven't killed him yet.

jesnon · « **Reply #23 on:** June 24, 2014, 09:18:05 AM »

Good point about using a tub Sue!

And glad to hear more reports of healthy bettas!

Puffin · « **Reply #24 on:** June 24, 2014, 09:40:05 AM »

I've seen those syphons in pets at home Jesnon, and come to the conclusion, as you and Sue have, that they are for cleaning only. Not for water changes.
There are some really horrid YouTube videos of people keeping betta in Jack Daniels bottles amongst other things. (In the US)

jesnon · « **Reply #25 on:** June 26, 2014, 05:30:30 PM »

We have the tank now! It's been all set up for him just needs plugging in as we didn't have an extension cord. Once that's done I can bring my filter media in. Unless the media would be ok for several hours in a tub in which case I can bring it in tomorrow?

I've discovered that coincidentally the tank is the same brand as the siphon so I think we might keep it as it might be good to suck up any left over food I guess if a water change isn't due.

I'm very impressed with how the tank looks and am very excited about getting his fish!

ColinB · « **Reply #26 on:** June 26, 2014, 05:41:57 PM »

Hey.... c'mon Jesnon, you know the rules. Piccies.... or it didn't happen!

Sue · « **Reply #27 on:** June 26, 2014, 06:52:29 PM »

If you treat the media like a fish (totally submerged with a good sized air space above) it should be fine for a few hours. Provided you keep it in a place where it won't get baked or frozen.

jesnon · « **Reply #28 on:** June 28, 2014, 08:00:02 PM »

Quote from: ColinB on June 26, 2014, 05:41:57 PM

Hey.... c'mon Jesnon, you know the rules. Piccies.... or it didn't happen!

Haha unfortunately Colin I can't with it being at work. Very impressed with the tank though and the decorations are pretty cool! The light in the tank appears to just be an energy saving bulb, which needs changing as it doesn't appear to be working.

The filter I don't really understand though... It has a spray bar, I'm not really sure if I need to use that or not though? I've set it up without the spray bar, and have removed the carbon that came in it. There's just one small sponge at the minute and space for the cycled media. I might try and get someone to get it from a LFS but will need to see if it's possible or not. Unfortunately the heater hasn't arrived in the post yet though

Quote from: Sue on June 26, 2014, 06:52:29 PM

If you treat the media like a fish (totally submerged with a good sized air space above) it should be fine for a few hours. Provided you keep it in a place where it won't get baked or frozen.

Good point! I'll see what happens. I'm off for a couple of days now, really hoping no-one just goes out and buys the fish!

I got myself some new fish today and looked at the bettas whilst there - they really are lovely fish!

jesnon · « **Reply #29 on:** July 05, 2014, 07:29:29 PM »

Just thought I'd update on this. Well I took my testing kit in and some filter media and added ammonia. .. several days later ammonia reading of the same and no nitrite. Not sure what's gone wrong really didn't want to have to do a fishless cycle. The filter is very small and my media took up the whole space inside. I'm not really sure what went wrong...

Sue · « **Reply #30 on:** July 05, 2014, 07:55:19 PM »

That does sound a bit odd. How much ammonia did you add? It could be that because the filter is so small it can only process a small amount of ammonia.

jesnon · « **Reply #31 on:** July 05, 2014, 09:04:30 PM »

It was a bit too much, I think 4ppm (I'm sure it must be stronger than it used to be! ?) I'll do a water change tomorrow and start again with a smaller dose say 1ppm and see what happens

Sue · « **Reply #32 on:** July 05, 2014, 09:18:23 PM »

That's the best thing. When I was between bettas a few years ago I added ammonia to feed the bacteria till I got a new one and the same thing happened - no sign of ammonia dropping and no nitrite. Just one betta doesn't make much ammonia so 1ppm will be more than enough.

jesnon · « **Reply #33 on:** July 07, 2014, 08:25:20 PM »

Quote from: Sue on July 05, 2014, 09:18:23 PM

That's the best thing. When I was between bettas a few years ago I added ammonia to feed the bacteria till I got a new one and the same thing happened - no sign of ammonia dropping and no nitrite. Just one betta doesn't make much ammonia so 1ppm will be more than enough.

very strange!

Well so far ammonia is dropping but nitrite has gone off the scale. I really want it to be cycled by Thursday but doesn't look good!

jesnon · « **Reply #34 on:** July 09, 2014, 06:38:41 PM »

Well... good news! I think the tank is fully cycled now. Nitrite and ammonia have both dropped to 0ppm! Hopefully by Sunday he can get his new fish!

jesnon · « **Reply #35 on:** July 13, 2014, 11:32:32 PM »

Frustrating news from my end... One of my staff went out and bought fish today before my shift. .. Yes fish and not a fish and not the fish I clearly asked them to get. Frustrating. Two male platies and they were advised by the shop he can get more AND neon tetras for his tank up to 10 fish. In a 22l tank. Grrr.

I don't really know what to do now as my tenant seems very taken by them but the tank is too small for platies. Ugh

chris213 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 14, 2014, 07:09:14 AM »

thats really bad on the part of the shop to advise such a high stock load for a tank.

ColinB · « **Reply #37 on:** July 14, 2014, 08:17:19 AM »

Quote from: jesnon on July 13, 2014, 11:32:32 PM

Frustrating news from my end... One of my staff went out and bought fish today before my shift. .. Yes fish and not a fish and not the fish I clearly asked them to get. Frustrating. Two male platies and they were advised by the shop he can get more AND neon tetras for his tank up to 10 fish. In a 22l tank. Grrr.

I don't really know what to do now as my tenant seems very taken by them but the tank is too small for platies. Ugh

Why do people do this!!!! That's awful. Have you resorted to physical violence yet?

My experience with male platies is that they'll be fine for a few months - then the hormones kick in and they'll beat hell out of each other. In that small tank there's not enough room for the weaker to hide and it won't be pretty. Can you take them back and complain about the bad advice, taking print-outs of platy advice from this site and Seriously Fish etc to show that they were wrong?

Anyway - platies need hard water and neons need soft water. They shouldn't be in the same tank together, so that's more bad advice.

Get on your scooter, girl, and ride!

Sue · « **Reply #38 on:** July 14, 2014, 09:40:31 AM »

I would definitely take them back and explain to the shop that they are not suitable for 22 litres.
Then explain to your tenant that though the fish look OK in there, they will grow and be unhappy.
Then have a word with the person who bought the fish, ask if the know anything about fish, tell them that shop workers are the last person to believe and explain why you took the fish back.

And say if they do that again you'll ** insert suitable punishment**

jesnon · « **Reply #39 on:** July 14, 2014, 04:14:03 PM »

Thanks guys! Very frustrating isn't it! ? I've spoken to the service user and he seems happy to take the fish back, just need a car driver now so we can get them back ok

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