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Offline dbaggie

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Cyanobacteria
« on: October 18, 2014, 01:40:20 PM »
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I seem to be having something of a cyanobacteria outbreak at the moment  >:(

I've had a look on James' Planted Tank which recommends a good fettle followed by a 3-4 day blackout. However, I've also seen some suggestions to use a 3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution which is supposedly pretty instant. This seems pretty risky to me but I thought it was worth checking to see whether anyone else had tried this approach?

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Re: Cyanobacteria
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2014, 06:45:34 PM »
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No offers??  ???

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Re: Cyanobacteria
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2014, 06:54:38 PM »
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Hydrogen peroxide is a source of oxygen. It is an unstable molecule, H2O2 and readily decomposes to make water, H2O and oxygen gas, O2. Neither of those is harmful, but I don't know if hydrogen peroxide itself is harmful to fish  :-\

Did you come across this in your researches?

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Re: Cyanobacteria
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2014, 07:32:00 PM »
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Did you come across this in your researches?

Brilliant, thanks Sue - that's the kind of thing I was looking for and the secondary link to 'Jerry's Planted Aquarium' looks promising as well - will have a good read.

I'd found various forum comments and even YouTube videos about using H2O2 but no properly researched articles.

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Re: Cyanobacteria
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2014, 11:47:33 AM »
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Another case of 'do your own research'. 

Hydrogen dioxide is used in the greenhouse and fruit / vegetable industry as a disinfectant.  It can be sprayed directly onto plants, and it kills fungus, algae, bacteria without damaging the plants.  Hydrogen peroxide is too unstable for this use, but it would work if the product would just settle down. 

This product is even used in vegetable field crops, sprayed on the plants, as a sort of pesticide to help control outbreaks of disease.  There is absolutely no residue.

However, plants don't have gills so we still don't know if it is safe for fish.  And the rate that might be effective. 

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Re: Cyanobacteria
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2014, 01:54:19 PM »
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Another case of 'do your own research'. 

Is that a statement or a suggestion??

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Re: Cyanobacteria
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2014, 04:23:14 PM »
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algae exit works a treat

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Re: Cyanobacteria
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2014, 10:27:28 PM »
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dbaggie, it isn't a statement or a suggestion, but more of a lament. 

In this case finding the right rate of hydrogen dioxide would involve several identical tanks and different rates in each tank.  It would take a while, and inevitably a tank would have to be over dosed to find the lethal dose.  Thus dead fish.

I guess that hydrogen dioxide would be valuable to aquarium health, but research is so complicated that it quickly gets beyond me. 

It might turn out that hydrogen dioxide is TOO effective and we're left with such sterile tanks that bad organisms could get the upper hand after treatment. 

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Re: Cyanobacteria
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2014, 10:34:24 PM »
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easycarbo could be used as well just
paint it on affected areas and it will be
killed off 

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Re: Cyanobacteria
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2014, 12:34:12 PM »
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easycarbo could be used as well just
paint it on affected areas and it will be
killed off

That sounds worth a try - it's obviously designed for aquarium use and at least if it doesn't work it should help the plants!

Where do you normally get yours from Biffster?

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Re: Cyanobacteria
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2014, 03:21:08 PM »
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good pet shop should stock easycarbo in the
plant section its actually a liquid based plant
fertilizer i was told about this by a plant specialist
i am going to by another bottle that tank i have my
co2 dosent suffer from  Cyanobacteria

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