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Aquarium photography tips
« on: July 28, 2015, 08:09:12 PM »
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Inspired by and envious of Sue's lovely photos in comparison with those I'd attempted to take at the weekend on a variety of different modes and flash settings and which ultimately involved reflections of myself or the room behind me, a big flashlight on the back of the tank, fish blended into and indistinguishable from the substrate, blurred fish, glowing-eyed fish (a bit like red-eyed humans), I decided to have a hunt around and am resurrecting this thread: http://www.thinkfish.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,209.msg3234.html#msg3234

Any additional suggestions since then would be very welcome, whether taking photos by digital camera or by mobile phone. Thanks.

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Re: Aquarium photography tips
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 08:16:20 PM »
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Great idea, I've been wondering how I can improve my shots.

I'll read the link and come back later ... 

Even though some of this could be filed under O for Obvious ;) I think the tips are well worth putting in one place.

A few ideas:
  • Get a better camera :)
  • Disable the flash unless you have an off-camera flash.  You may need to correct the colour balance depending on your camera/lights.  If your camera can't do this, there should be an option in your photo editing software
  • If you don't have photo editing software, get some.  There are plenty of free products around
  • Use a tripod
  • Set the ISO on your camera to it's highest setting if you have the option
  • Set the resolution to it's highest setting
  • Don't get too close unless you have a macro option
  • Don't use the macro option unless you have a tripod

I found the following especially interesting. Now I don't know what kind of AF my camera has but I'll be thinking about this the next time I have it out in front of the aquarium.

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There are two basic forms of autofocus; active and passive.  Solutions to your problem depend upon which one your camera has.
  • Passive uses software in the camera to analyse something about the picture, it may be contrast or colour or phase of the light.  It uses this info to focus the lens.
  • Active uses a beam of light, usually infra-red, fired from the front of your camera and detects the echoes bouncing back from your subject.
Cheaper or older cameras will choose one or other of these systems, more expensive or newer cameras will have both.  They will use passive autofocus until the light level drops below a threshold and then use active autofocus.

Forgive all this preamble, but the problem you have can have different causes or solutions depending upon this info.

Active autofocus is the most likely system to be banjaxed by use through glass.  The infra-red is reflected from the glass and the camera thinks the glass is the subject.  The only way to get round this for aquarium photography is to move back a foot, depress the shutter halfway and then move forward a foot.  On  most cameras, this should lock the autofocus.  It's crude but...  For other photography there are alternative solutions.  I had this problem with a 35mm compact camera I used to take on skiing holidays.  Taking photos of the mountains through the window of the cable-car would focus on the glass not the mountain.  The solution was a piece of masking tape over the infra-red emitter.  The AF system would then focus on infinity and my landscapes were in focus!
Passive autofocus is more robust because it is analysing the image entering the camera. Two things can screw it up.  First, insufficient light.  This is a problem we will be coming across again and again photographing our fish.  Second, sometimes the AF system can be fooled if there is any dirt or dust on the glass.  This is easy, you should be taking photos through clean glass anyway.  (That's clean on both sides).

Hope SteveS is OK with these gems being resurrected here.  :cheers:

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Re: Aquarium photography tips
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2015, 09:02:17 PM »
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When I photograph my fish now, I draw the curtains (even when it's dark because of street lights) and shut doors that allow any light in. This gets rid of room reflections in the glass. It took me ages to work that out  :-\

I don't use flash or I get a big white splodge in the middle of the image.

I take photos with the tank lights on.

I use a tripod or the photos are terrible.

Because I have no idea how to use the camera (it's an old Fuji S7000 that used to be my husband's) I use the following settings:
On the mode dial I use the auto setting (other settings are aperture priority, shutter priority etc)
I use the macro button, but press it only once as twice is for just a few inches - I use that for my African violet flowers as in my avatar.
The focus mode selector switch is set to continuous.

And I use photographic software to crop the image to remove the bits of the photo I don't want. That way I can take a photo of one more or less motionless fish and get rid of the blurs caused by the fast swimming fish that get into the shot.


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Re: Aquarium photography tips
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2015, 10:54:56 AM »
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Hope SteveS is OK with these gems being resurrected here.  :cheers:
Yeah! No problem at all.

Because I have no idea how to use the camera (it's an old Fuji S7000 that used to be my husband's) I use the following settings:
On the mode dial I use the auto setting (other settings are aperture priority, shutter priority etc)
I use the macro button, but press it only once as twice is for just a few inches - I use that for my African violet flowers as in my avatar.
The focus mode selector switch is set to continuous.
There is a manual for your camera here

Sue's camera uses a passive type AF system. It measures contrast and does some digital magic to get the focal distance. For those of you who don't understand the focus-mode that Sue mentions; Each AF system can be used in different ways; It can measure the focus in a number of different areas and take an average, it can measure the focus across the whole frame or across a small spot in the centre. It can measure the focus at the time you press the shutter or it can continuously monitor the focus, and even try and predict where the subject will be when you take the picture.

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Re: Aquarium photography tips
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2015, 11:12:51 AM »
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I have a Canon A590is, not sure what kind of AF it uses and I can't remember where I put the manual.

I'd love to learn how to take better aquarium shots with it, but wonder if it's really capable.
I love using it for general day-to-day snapshots and the occasional landscape, so it would be great if I could also use it to photograph my aquarium.

SteveS inspired me to do a search and I've found the manual  here, so I probably really should take the time to learn about the Manual Focus setting if my fish will ever stay still long enough! :)

This sounds like it could be useful:
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Using the Manual Focus in Combination with the Auto Focus (Safety MF)
First, manual focus is used to roughly focus, then from that focus position the camera automatically focuses more accurately

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Re: Aquarium photography tips
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2015, 11:30:17 AM »
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One of the restrictions of my camera is that second or two between pressing the button and the shutter releasing. I can have a nicely positioned, motionless fish but by the time the shutter opens it has either started to swim away causing a blur or it turns round so all I get is a shot of a head or tail.


I do have the paper manual, we never throw anything away. It's just trying to work out what it means then remember it during the big gaps between fish photographing sessions.
I hardly ever use the camera. I take photos of my fish, my African violets and cacti when they flower, and family history certificates I want to share with other people (we don't have a scanner and the photos do come out remarkably well). As you can see, most of my subjects can't move, it's just fish I have problems with.
But I will spend some time with the manual this afternoon and see if it explains in words I can understand how best to photograph moving objects.

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Re: Aquarium photography tips
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2015, 12:58:12 PM »
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SteveS inspired me to do a search and I've found the manual  here, so I probably really should take the time to learn about the Manual Focus setting if my fish will ever stay still long enough! :)
Oh yes. I am a firm believer in reading the manual. For example, I had a quick scan of your manual and discovered two things. You have an active and a passive AF system. The active one will presumably kick in when the passive one has trouble. More interesting is the fact that your camera has a preprogrammed "Aquarium" mode! (page 69-72)

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Re: Aquarium photography tips
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2015, 01:14:58 PM »
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...  More interesting is the fact that your camera has a preprogrammed "Aquarium" mode! (page 69-72)

Yes I've found, and tried using, that setting in the past, however still had a problem focussing.  ???

I'll have to see if it's possible to combine with Manual Focus or Safety MF.

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