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Offline TopCookie

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #280 on: June 21, 2018, 10:26:33 PM »
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I'm really chuffed right now as they are quite happy pottering about in full view with the lights on...  :D

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #281 on: June 22, 2018, 10:47:43 PM »
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Tell you what guys, I used TNC Carbon for what was just a fraction over one month - maybe 5 weeks - and the plants have gone ballistic now...  aquatic jungle city...!!!   :yikes:

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #282 on: June 23, 2018, 07:35:21 AM »
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Good to know. How does it compare to Flourish excel...(have you ever tried this)? What is your dose rate?  I want to give a different liquid carbon product a go as the easy life stuff I'm using I really dont rate.

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #283 on: June 23, 2018, 09:37:53 AM »
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I've only ever tried the TNC Carbon Matt and so, alas, am unable to give a comparison verdict etc...   

TNC's recommended dose is 1ml per 50 litres, per day...  My tank holds an estimated 150 litres of water, after allowing for substrate and decorations etc, and so a full daily dose would be 3ml...

My regime was to slowly build up to 2ml per day and then eventually drop that back down to 1ml per day and finally stop completely...  So, at the highest level, I was still only on two thirds of the recommended daily dose... 

What I have noticed both times I've used liquid carbon is that you don't necessarily notice much difference initially, and then after a little while things take off nicely...  I would imagine that it may be different from tank to tank according to set up, plant levels and nutrients etc... 

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #284 on: June 23, 2018, 11:26:27 AM »
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I’ve always assumed that all of the liquid carbon products were the same in terms of ingredients. Is this not the case ?

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #285 on: June 23, 2018, 12:01:05 PM »
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Ditto Dave...  I dunno the answer though...

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #286 on: June 23, 2018, 07:15:38 PM »
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I thought the same too but recently I am hearing that the flourish excel contains something different... @Sue was it you I heard this from??

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #287 on: June 23, 2018, 09:02:45 PM »
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Flourish Excel contains polycycloglutaracetal which is a polymerised isomer of glutaraldehyde.
TNC carbon contains glutaraldehyde. This is from The Nutrient Company's website
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Contains :- 2% Gluteraldahyde

If there are any other 'liquid carbon' products I'll see if I can find what's in those.

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #288 on: June 23, 2018, 10:32:18 PM »
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I've been adding 0.5ml TNC carbon to my tank for a few weeks. The recommended dose would be 4ml, as I have about 220l of water in my tank.

I didn't want to add enough carbon to trigger a major growth spurt because I'm fairly sure I have a lot of other nutrient deficiencies which would be exacerbated.

In general, since I've been adding TNC carbon I have noticed that the plants are looking more healthy and green, without having noticeably increased growth. It is also showing up other deficiencies, but they're not really extreme, so I'm expecting to be able to treat them (when I get around to looking up what they are!)

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #289 on: June 23, 2018, 10:51:15 PM »
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You may well be on the brink of a growth explosion Helen...  Well, "explosion" is an exaggeration, but don't be surprised if growth rates do start to increase any day now...  :)

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #290 on: June 24, 2018, 11:24:36 AM »
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I think I have too many other nutrients limiting growth. The first one I've identified is potassium. So maybe after I've treated that...

Having said that, my lotus has sent up another surface leaf. Which I'm pretty pleased about.

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #291 on: June 24, 2018, 11:37:27 AM »
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Worth considering one of those potassium test kits Helen...  I was convinced my K was lacking and came very close to supplementing with Seachem Potassium...  Turned out that the Potassium levels were fine in the end... 

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #292 on: June 24, 2018, 01:53:47 PM »
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I actually have a potassium test kit. I just need to find the time to use it!

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #293 on: June 24, 2018, 07:50:01 PM »
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It would be remiss of me to not admit that I did exactly the same Helen...  Bought the kit, then didn't use it for a good while...  Glad I did in the end though...  :)

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #294 on: June 27, 2018, 05:17:01 PM »
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No major news to report other than The Cookie Crew are looking like a happy bunch today...   :D

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #295 on: July 03, 2018, 12:46:33 AM »
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I've had my first fish fatality...   :'(    One of the eleven Cardinal Tetras was found floating, brown bread, the evening of the same day I did a water change...  No signs of anything wrong with him/her, just an apparently random death... 

Parameters all checked of course and absolutely no change in any department: 0-0-5

Dunno if the death is related to the water change somehow - Severn Trent have issued a low water stock warning, so I dunno if that may mean that the new water could have included something "from the dregs" kinda thing, although that's hard to imagine... 

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #296 on: July 03, 2018, 06:58:38 AM »
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Sorry for your loss cookie, perhaps the hot weather we are having had something to do with it.

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #297 on: July 03, 2018, 07:12:08 AM »
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Sorry to hear about your loss.
Unfortunately sometimes these things happen, an an unexplained loss can be frustrating.

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #298 on: July 03, 2018, 08:30:05 AM »
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Very sorry to read about this, @TopCookie:'(

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #299 on: July 03, 2018, 10:43:45 AM »
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Thanks guys... 

I'm more perplexed than I am upset, kinda thing...  There was no sign of anything wrong whatsoever...  Being one of eleven, sorta softens the blow a bit - I would be more upset had it been my lone BN Pleco or one of my four Cories etc... 

The Oto Cats all seem fine and from what I've understood, they're a great barometer for potential issues, so this and the water test results assure me that it is more likely to be a random death...  My one concern is that the one Platy I have can be a bit of a bully at times, so perhaps there is a chance that he's had something to do with this...?

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