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The Cookie Crew
« on: April 12, 2018, 01:45:28 PM »
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Tank log for "The Cookie Crew"... 

Will add any news and some up to date pics imminently...  :)

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2018, 04:39:22 PM »
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I'm looking forward to seeing some pictures.  ;) Every time I tried looking for your photos I meant to suggest that you put a thread here.
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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2018, 05:57:39 PM »
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Finally planted the Echinodorus Red Diamond today, after a short spell in quarantine...  But with the other new plants recently introduced, I'm seeing a lot more of the pesky little ramshorn shape micro snails and picking them out manually...   :vcross:

Went in the tank today for a little light trimming & tidy up, having done the same yesterday, and blow me - what starts out as 15 minutes of tinkering soon becomes the entire afternoon, eh...??!!??   ::)

Will get some new pics up asap Helen...  Tank is a tad murky at the mo because of tinkering with the plants...  I couldn't, literally, get the Red Diamond to settle in the chosen spot I had for it, so ended up uprooting one of the nuisance H.Costata and then planting Old Red in that space, so the tank will look a fair bit (read: a little bit, lol) different once I get it nice and clear & photo worthy again...  :)

The H.Costata came out reasonably well and without too much disruption (unlike the Elodea I uprooted recently...!!!), so that has encouraged me with the idea of removing them all, over time, and replacing them with better choices...  :)

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2018, 07:15:22 PM »
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Went in the tank today for a little light trimming & tidy up, having done the same yesterday, and blow me - what starts out as 15 minutes of tinkering soon becomes the entire afternoon, eh...??!!??   ::)


It's far too easy to lose an entire afternoon to pottering/faffing/maintenance.  ;D

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2018, 07:19:20 PM »
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Went in the tank today for a little light trimming & tidy up, having done the same yesterday, and blow me - what starts out as 15 minutes of tinkering soon becomes the entire afternoon, eh...??!!??   ::)
Did you have a swim while you were in there too?  ;)

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2018, 11:02:23 PM »
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You gotta love it though, all the same...  lolol...  It really was only intended as a brief "potter" in the tank, after having an afternoon of it yesterday too...  But I have now discovered that there's no such thing as a gentle plant trimming...!!!  Oh no, it's more like if you get those scissors out, may as well get the BIG bucket out coz that's how much space you're gonna need by the time you finally manage to persuade yourself that it's time to finally put the scissors down while you still have some actual plants left...!!!!!    :yikes:

Lolol on the swimming thing...  my t-shirt certainly thinks I went swimming...!!!   ;D

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2018, 11:18:52 AM »
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The most recent pic I can find, although this is a few days old and prior to a few changes... 


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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2018, 03:33:47 PM »
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Looking good.  :cheers:

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2018, 06:17:39 PM »
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Very envious of how great it looks.  8)

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2018, 06:44:43 PM »
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Great tank & lovely plants.  8)

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2018, 10:13:27 AM »
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After noticing some kind of filamentous algae growing on a few of the taller Sword leaves and the upper H.Costata leaves, some serious trimming has been underway, so the tank is definitely looking less lush and jungle like at the moment...  Also inclined to leave the skimmer filter on all the time at the mo too, to see if I can't combat the algae a little...  Finally, just as @Matt has suggested, I shall be reducing the lighting period a little too... 

In the meantime, the Seachem Pristine is working well and keeping the tank nice and clear & bright looking, and the Seachem Phosguard is also doing its thing well, having approximately halved the phosphate levels in the tank...  Only problem here is that my tap water level is high, so I may have to consider setting up a better solution by putting a layer of Phosguard in the main filter...

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2018, 10:28:59 AM »
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Aside from the running news there, I'm now considering some additional community fish...  After talking about stocking levels elsewhere, it would seem that I could in fact add a small shoal of another species to the Cookie Crew... 

There's no need to add to the Cardinals (11) or Pristellas (12) in the tank, and I just plain don't want to boost the Red Phantom numbers (6) on the grounds that they bicker too much (although to be fair, they have been a bit better lately)...

So, I'm after recommendations for a peaceful community fish that doesn't get too big and would sit nicely with a bunch of Tetras...  I'd almost prefer something that would be happy with 2 or 3 in numbers and would prefer a species that are not Tetras, having three varieties already... 

Gotta say though, @daveyng pics of his Diamond Tetras is an eye opener, for sure...  Beautiful fish indeed...!!!

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2018, 04:14:35 PM »
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A possibly controversial suggestion: you might find that increasing the number of red phantoms reduces the bickering!  :o

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2018, 05:10:40 PM »
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Would Galaxy Rasboras fit in with the Tetras. I have kept them with neons in a tank that we installed at work.
They were fine with them.

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2018, 06:11:03 PM »
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Two good recommendations to kick off with...  My concern with the Galaxy Rasboras would be them being so small, but then having said that, maybe that could mean a shoal of 8 to 10 fish and not much additional bio-load...  Definitely not ruled out and definitely a beautiful little fish...  Bottom line; added to the new wish list...!!! 

Adding more RPTs I would say is not at all controversial Helen and I suspect that would probably work well in terms of reduced bickering...  The problem I have there is that I really don't especially like them now, and adding more kinda goes against the grain a little...  I so wish I had got Harlequins instead now, but no use to think like that too much...  Maybe Harlequins are not a bad idea anyway, then simply replace each RPT with another Harlequin as their numbers come up, over time...? 

The two main contenders on my wish list (prior to Dave's suggestion above) are Cherry Barbs and Neon Dwarf Rainbowfish...  I have no experience of either species so far, but they both look nice to me and sound like potential candidates...  Would love a pair of Gourami of some sort, possibly Honeys, but this is another species that I need to research more... 

Still wide open to suggestions though...  :)

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2018, 06:16:48 PM »
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A possibly controversial suggestion: you might find that increasing the number of red phantoms reduces the bickering!  :o
I wholeheartedly agree - and perhaps try to ensure that you get more females so that there are plenty for the males to choose from.

These fish http://www.thinkfish.co.uk/fish/harlequin-rasbora.html, although from a different part of the world than tetras, might "fit the bill" well; I love mine.

Ha - tried to post and it turns out you'd posted as I was typing this, with the very suggestion I put above; great minds... Ignore my first comment as you've effectively eliminated that option. Re cherry barbs which you mention, from recollection of others' experiences, they are good as they are generally peaceful and cover the entire tank (including feeding on leftovers).

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2018, 06:32:21 PM »
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They are lovely fish, the Harlequins...  and not ruled out really...   :fishy1:

Just been reading about the Brilliant Rasbora (Rasbora einthovenii) which could be an option, although they are a bit larger than ideal... 

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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2018, 07:43:54 PM »
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I have previous had cherry barbs and currently have neon dwarf rainbows. The former was several years ago and I don't really remember what they were like (the males coloured up nicely, but I don't remember their behaviour. But I also didn't know as much about fish then). The dwarf rainbows are in line to become one of my favourites. They are surprisingly slow growing - I've had them 3 months and I'd say they are 3-4cm. But they have still got some lovely colour to them. I'm quite excited for when they are full-grown.

I also have harlequin rasboras which I definitely have a soft spot for. They are interesting fish to watch.

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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2018, 09:46:03 PM »
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To give you something a bit different to think about... Bolivian ram - great characters. Will show some really different behaviours to your other fish. One how about something for the surface. I've seen hockeystick pencilfish in a few of my local MA stores recently and have been giving them some serious thought...

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2018, 10:43:10 PM »
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At the moment, it is the Neon Dwarf Rainbows hitting the top spot... 

Rams are a fave of mine but I think they like softer water than I have...?  I've looked at them a few times, as potential candidates for the tank, but have always ended up ruling them out for some reason or other, don't remember why tbh though...  Brilliant looking fish though and I totally understand anybody having Rams as their faves...  :) 

One fish that I have considered, as a lone specimen though, is the Platy...  Does anyone know if they are "happy" as a lone fish in a community...?

Saw this pic of a Platy and love it: 


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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2018, 11:11:56 PM »
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I have Cherry Barbs in my tank. They pretty much keep to themselves and the males really colour up once settled in their environment.

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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2018, 11:47:57 PM »
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@daveyng  which sorta level in the tank do they spend most time Dave...?

@Helen  same question for Helen, about the Neon Dwarf Rainbows...?

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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2018, 07:25:18 AM »
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I have recently spoken about how we don't truly know if we are make our fish happy but that we should obviously be trying to do so. I don't know that platy show any health effects of being kept alone but would they be happy? In nature I believe they are found in groups but they are not like traditional schoaling fish. I has a lone endler for a while when its mates had long passed it seemed go break all rules and live for twice as long and never "seemed unhappy".  Of course with platy you need to be careful that you get males else you will likely be inundated with fry! They are quite active fish compared to your current stocking so be aware of this as it might change the dynamic of the tank.

Going back to rams...bloom up specifically Bolivian rams as opposed to German Blue rams which you are right need soft water.  Bolivians are slightky larger, much more adaptable, though slightly less colourful.

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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2018, 11:16:24 AM »
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Yeah, I see the BRs are more flexible than the GBRs...  How are these bad boys with shrimps Matt...?


Edit:  Just looked on CC to find this warning...



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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2018, 11:39:10 AM »
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@TopCookie The Cherry’s spend most of the time in the bottom third of the tank.

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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2018, 11:48:36 AM »
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Thanks @daveyng 

That kinda knocks them off the wish-list, as that part of the tank is already teeming...  With looking at the CC and Bolivian Rams, this leaves me three potential options (so far):

1/ Neon Dwarf Rainbowfish x 6

2/ A lone Platy

3/ Additional 2 or 3 female Red Phantom Tetras (grudgingly on the list though)

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Re: The Cookie Crew
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2018, 01:08:33 PM »
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Neon Dwarfs stay mainly in the top third of the tank.

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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2018, 02:46:31 PM »
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That platy has great colours. I have 2 v. platy in my temperate tank, daughters of the very first fish I bought. The 2 of them seem fine and get on with the danios, wcmm, peppered cories & amanos in that tank.
Additional red phantom tetras may help with any bad behaviour.
I'd probably end up going for the neon dwarf rainbowfish.

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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2018, 10:07:24 PM »
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That particular Platy in the picture is a beauty, eh...  All the colours you might find in a Cichlid but without the shrimp worries...  I'd love to find one for sale that looked at least a little like that...  :)

Just off to investigate YouTube now...  May have my first upload shortly...   :D

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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2018, 10:17:38 PM »
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGQkBUxOXcE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGQkBUxOXcE</a>

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« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2018, 10:51:44 PM »
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 :cheers: looking great.

Interesting that tour cardinals stay so low down. Im sure i remember them being more mid water fish in my tank.

By the way I'm loving the soundtrack to the video!  :rotfl:

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« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2018, 10:57:43 PM »
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lolol, had the Man United game on the tv there...   ;D   I have substitued an audio track, but YT says it takes a little time to set up...???

Edit:  Audio track sorted...   :)

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« Reply #32 on: Today at 10:47:15 AM »
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You guys that have now or have had Neon Dwarf Rainbowfish, how are they for bickering & squabbling amongst themselves...?

Following somebody else's thread on another forum where one of the guy's NDRs has physical damage, suspected as being from fighting, and talk is of how the males in particular can be aggressive - especially if that crucial balance of males to females is off etc... 

After my ongoing frustration with constantly bickering Red Phantoms, about the last thing I want to embark on is introducing more quarrelsome little blighters... 

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Never had problems with fighting. I have a couple of males and 4 females. The males obviously chase the females around when displaying, but I have never noticed anything untowards.

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I can't help wondering if a shoal of 4F and 1M might be a good way forward with a view to keeping that bickering/chasing down...?

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Your tank looks great.  8)

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