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Setting Up A 'Temperate' Pond

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Offline daveyng

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2018, 05:36:56 PM »
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I’m considering buying an in-line fan for hydroponics use. They are high output and I could probably work out a way of putting a hose above the surface of the pond to blow air over the surface. I can mount the fan in a waterproof enclosure.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2018, 08:23:57 AM »
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That sounds interesting. Let me know how that goes as I may need something for my river tank that is cheaper than a chiller. Obviously as my tank is indoors things are a lot easier for me, so I'm going with fans & water changes at the moment.  :)

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2018, 10:31:43 AM »
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That looks alright Dave...  :)   Definitely the sort of thing I'd consider...  I have seen some purpose built fans on one of the websites, geared up for tank cooling, but for much smaller tanks though... 

I like the look of those in Donna's link too...  :) 

Not too bad, temperature wise, at the moment, but obviously things are gonna be warming up from now...

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2018, 10:55:31 AM »
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Latest Readings from the Seneye in the Pond (attached). You can see the temperature is creeping up. The pH had been fluctuating a bit but I managed to curb that by covering the Pond with a sheet of the mirrored insulation during the peak sunlight hours (13:00 - 17:00). Today its gone up because I ran the water feature. Probably drove the O2 level up.
There are also a few more pics of the setup (bit Heath Robinson) but it works. There are 2 showing the cover. I place a couple of rocks on it to stop it blowing away !!. There is another of the filter with the insulation wrapped around it and 1 of the working water pump feature.
I am going to construct a rustic looking box to cover the filter although its tucked away and not really noticeable. I will also do something more permanent for the cover.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2018, 12:36:46 PM »
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I have used fans previously to cool my axolotl tank, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tropical-Freshwater-Aquarium-Cooling-FS-604/dp/B00DGR5RQ6  and I found that it worked well if you only need to drop the temperature slightly, perhaps a degree or two. Combined with shade, and regular water changes this may be enough in all but the warmest of summers.
I've also floated ice packs in the tank to help.
Eventually I purchased a chiller, which was quite expensive.

Sorry about being off topic here for a mo Dave... 

The Amazon fans there, looking at the feedback, one person had a simple but brilliant idea: 

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3 of the fans stopped working after approximately 6 weeks cheap rubbish You better off putting a household fan in front of the tank works much better"

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2018, 12:37:38 PM »
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Back on topic now:  love that vintage water pump set up - that looks fantastic...!!!   :D

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #56 on: April 20, 2018, 12:53:10 PM »
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Great set up.  :)
Glad to hear that your insulation is helping to keep the pond cool.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #57 on: April 20, 2018, 03:08:59 PM »
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I did consider the standard "PC" fans in a case, which I have on top of my tank (see pic). However, I think the Hydroponic / Bathroom inline one would be ideal, there much more powerful. I could simply cut a hole in the cover attach a 100mm hose to it via a standard fitting and then attach this to the fan.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #58 on: April 23, 2018, 11:07:58 PM »
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Update on the Golden Barbs. They have settled in nicely and are now swimming around with the Shiners and the WCMM. I assumed they’d pretty much keep to themselves but this isn’t the case. They are there with the rest of them at feeding time.
I also now have 4 Hillstream loaches. I didn’t get the Sewellia’s in the end. There was, however, a mixture of Gastromyzon Loaches under the general moniker of Hillstream Loaches. I noticed one of them has blue veined fins and looked quite attractive. There is plenty of algae on the pond liner for them, and the pebbles are starting to go green in places.
I have had them a few days and can see them occasionally attached to pebbles on the bottom.
Shrimp are also doing well, they are practically full size now and I can see them on the Java Moss and wandering over the pebbles.
I’ll see if I can take some pictures using the waterproof camera I used for the Video.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2018, 08:27:42 AM »
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Great to hear that all your fish have settled in and are doing well.  8)


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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2018, 06:59:14 PM »
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All sounds great  :))

Can wait to see those photos!  :fishy1:

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #61 on: May 03, 2018, 11:39:52 AM »
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Latest video of the pond inhabitants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgcp9Cjsdro
Barbs are coming along nicely.
As you can see the Hornwort is growing well and to the right of the picture is the Aponogeton henkelianus.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #62 on: May 03, 2018, 12:06:47 PM »
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Pond residents looking good there Dave...  :)

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #63 on: May 03, 2018, 02:23:55 PM »
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Fantastic.  8)

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #64 on: May 03, 2018, 07:00:07 PM »
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I love the video and especially the rainbow shiners which I've never actually seen in real life / the LFS.  8)

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2018, 07:53:33 AM »
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Nice one @daveyng, im going to have to give this a go myself!

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2018, 12:29:49 PM »
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Latest Pond Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa4BJNUVGRk
This one shows how the plants are coming along. The Hornwort is certainly growing well in the background. The  Aponogeton's are also coming along nicely.
The fish are visible towards the bottom of the screen. You can see the neon blue on the Shiners quite well and the Golden Barbs are also looking good.
Temperature got up to 26 C at one stage but I managed to bring it down by having the pump running.
I am currently more concerned with the pH at the moment it got up to 8.08 at one point.
I have taken to shading the pond for most of the afternoon now which stabilises the pH and keeps the temperature at a reasonable level.
The fish seem to be Ok but I don't want the pH climbing to these extremes.
The only explanation for the pH swings I have currently is Photosynthesis of the plants and algae. This is based on Pond Forums and other literature regarding aquaculture.
It seems that a Ponds normal pH range is usually between 7.5 and 8.5.
I would prefer mine not to go much above 7.5.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2018, 02:50:16 PM »
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Looking better & better Dave... 

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2018, 04:06:04 PM »
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I keep wondering, @daveyng how do you film your temperate pond? Do you have a waterproof camera?

Looking good btw.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2018, 04:50:04 PM »
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Yes, I do have a waterproof camera. It’s one of those budget sports cameras (Campark ACT74) from an online retailer. It’s perfectly OK for this sort of job. You can also use it as a dashcam.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2018, 07:20:31 PM »
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Your plants are flourishing  8)
Great to see you pond doing well.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2018, 10:39:19 PM »
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I agree - pond and inhabitants (plants and fish) seem to be doing very well.  :cheers:

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #72 on: May 18, 2018, 10:00:26 AM »
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I have just finished my DIY cooler (see attached). Now I'm just waiting for the hot weather to come back !!
I did test it yesterday and it appears to do it's job. If it works OK on a hot day I will get a temperature/cooler controller to run it.
The cooler is just a standard bathroom fan sealed in a weatherproof box. Inlet/outlet were sealed with aquarium sealant and also around the power lead inlet.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2018, 06:39:14 AM »
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That's a fantastic DIY project @daveyng  :vcross:

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #74 on: May 19, 2018, 07:20:52 AM »
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By any chance Dave, do you follow the young Paul Cuffaro on YouTube...?  He's a tremendously confident young pup who is heavily into both aquariums and outdoor ponds - especially ponds - and is great fun to watch... 

www.youtube.com/channel/UCKFtfFitaK83yBc0rlg9m1A/videos

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #75 on: May 20, 2018, 07:31:09 PM »
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Run the cooler for a day to see how it fared. It seems to be performing well. I will post some graphs showing the reduction in temperature over the last few days.
@Matt I hope I may of ‘fueled’ your interest in having a go at a ‘minipond’. It’ll be good to compare notes.
Had a brief look at the link posted by @TopCookie, looks very interesting. I will have more of a perusal later.

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